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Or even if I'm some other guy in charge of this team, I'd be doing minor transactions every day. Giving Mookie a new uniform number, releasing Dusty Ryan, inviting Josh Satin to camp, re-signing Dusty Ryan, trading Harry Chiti for himself --- anything to get something in the stream besides the lawsuits and the team's financial situation. Grievous stuff.

Pitchers and catchers two weeks away.


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Oh how Fred wishes for Spring Training and a Karin Garcia and Shane Spencer pissing and fighting in the parking lot of the pizza joint in PSL.


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metirish wrote:
Oh how Fred wishes for Spring Training and a Karim Garcia and Shane Spencer pissing and fighting in the parking lot of the pizza joint in PSL.


Oh, for meaningless games in March...even night games.

Pretty great that that episode involved the entire right field platoon. Teamwork!


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If I'm Sandy Alderson, I let the reporters get distracted by this all they want, and politely ignore them while doing the best job I can to get the team to win some games. And tell my manager and players to do likewise.


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smg58 wrote:
If I'm Sandy Alderson, I let the reporters get distracted by this all they want, and politely ignore them while doing the best job I can to get the team to win some games. And tell my manager and players to do likewise.


Exactly.

And really, is Adam Rubin gonna stop talking about the Wilpons spiral into disaster if the Mets put out a release saying they're going to have Perez be a reliever in camp or that they've signed some no name crappy pitcher to pitch for Binghamton?


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No, maybe not. But it'd be nice if we had something to talk about. Baseball.


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Edgy DC wrote:
No, maybe not. But it'd be nice if we had something to talk about. Baseball.


churn out more of these expectations of 11!


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I might call Minnesota about Liriano, but I sure-as-hell wouldn't expect to find a match, deal-wise.

But then, as Alderson, I probably wouldn't be as willing to trade Jose Reyes.


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It seems the Twinkies feel his 4.3 Million is high and he is a 2012 FA.

A match??? The Twins are pitching rich and have two youngun's Brian Deunsing and true Rookie highly touted Kyle Gibson. It would have to be bats so how about Fernando Martinez and Josh Satin?

That Heyman tweet yesterday about Reyes was frightening. The Mets want to see him healthy for a year and then maybe talk extension. That strategy probably won't keep Jose as a Mets beyond 2011.


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If I'm Sandy Alderson, "Fernando Martinez and Josh Satin" is a trade offer I scribble on my office notepad after several Shandy Aldersons* and ultimately toss in my "USMC" trashcan, because it's so paltry as to get you laughed out of the room... in Minnesota. (And they're polite in Minnesota.)

Think about what got the Mets Santana. Then think about what that offer would have been if he were three years younger at the time of the deal, and it wasn't contingent on his signing a gargantuan extension. (The presumed "injury discount" from his elbow issues is more than outstripped by the cheap one-year contract he's on, no?)

*Beer, ginger beer, 2 oz. of Corps gumption, and a twist of lemon. It's pragmatically refreshing.


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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Think about what got the Mets Santana. Then think about what that offer would have been if he were three years younger at the time of the deal, and it wasn't contingent on his signing a gargantuan extension. (The presumed "injury discount" from his elbow issues is more than outstripped by the cheap one-year contract he's on, no?)


Liriano posted a 3.62 ERA with a career high 201 K's in a career high 191 IP last year. Johan had five seasons in Minnesota with more IP than that, more K's than that, a lower WHIP by at least 0.2, and a lower ERA (below 3 in four of those seasons). Liriano certainly has value and upside, but you can't compare their track records. And that's before considering the injury issues.

Part of me says you have to kick the tires on somebody like Liriano, but part of me is wondering if the Twins know something we don't and are looking to sell high while they can.


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The long-play version of what I'd written had a few more conditions/conditions-to-conditions stuffed in there; I sacrificed a little accuracy to keep the point intact-- that they're seeking much more than Martinez-Satin (or, hell, -Flores-Mejia) to move him.

He's significantly less accomplished than Santana, and he's got that nettlesome injury history. He's also younger and cheaper, and won't require enough money to buy the Pirates alongside what players go in trade JUST to make it happen.

Mind you, I'm not advocating that we-- as Sandy Aldersons-- go get him. I'm just saying... the asking price will be higher than a let's-give-this-a-try pupu prospect platter.


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