Cap'n Intangibles to the Outfield Eventually, Sez Cashman

[seawolf17]

Among other things.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Brian-Cashman-predicts-Derek-Jeter-will-soon-mov?urn=mlb-312240

With Jeter in the outfield, Carl Crawford will have thirty triples a season just in his eighteen games against the Yankees.

[metirish]

I mean seriously Brian , the outfield?......have you actually seen the way Jeter runs , he's got this weird bow legged way of running that is just not suited for out there.

[Valadius]

Jeets will take to the media, say "they never discussed this with me," generally whine and complain to Francesa et al., Cashman will say he only said it to motivate.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Apparently Cash made the remark initially to mean that OF would be a better spot for Jeets to wind up than 3B, was overheard, tweeted, and when it came time to go on record was already in damage control.

When did the MFYs turn into the Mets?

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Apparently Cash made the remark initially to mean that OF would be a better spot for Jeets to wind up than 3B, was overheard, tweeted, and when it came time to go on record was already in damage control. When did the MFYs turn into the Mets?

They've always been worse than the Mets at all the stuff the Mets are criticized for. It's just they've had more success so it's glossed over, at best.

[Guest Edgy DC]

metirish wrote: I mean seriously Brian , the outfield?......have you actually seen the way Jeter runs , he's got this weird bow legged way of running that is just not suited for out there.

I might disagree. Some bowlegged dudes have managed just fine in the outfield. Puckett comes to mind. Dykstra was a little bowlegged. Bill James had a theory that a little bowleggedness was an underappreciated postive baseball trait.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: metirish wrote: I mean seriously Brian , the outfield?......have you actually seen the way Jeter runs , he's got this weird bow legged way of running that is just not suited for out there. I might disagree. Some bowlegged dudes have managed just fine in the outfield. Puckett comes to mind. Dykstra was a little bowlegged. Bill James had a theory that a little bowleggedness was an underappreciated postive baseball trait.

Well, since the major issue is "Where do you hide him?" because he's got the contract and you have to, theoretically, play him. The outfield probably works as well as anything else. less critical than SS, and you're not expecting him to play great defense.

But 3B is still probably the more likely answer no? Obviously Cashman couldn't say that without creating a "Will A-Rod be at 3B for the rest of his contract" followup.

[Guest holychicken]

I am trying to figure out how many gold gloves his patented useless spin move will earn him while he plays out there.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

I think Cashman's trying to get fired.

They're stuck with Jeter at short unless they want to move his greasy butt to DH, but the MFYs tend to overstock their team with slugging DHs and not slap hitters who resort to faking getting hit to get on base any way possible.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I think Cashman's trying to get fired.

It really does seem that way, doesn't it? The yapping's rather... uncharacteristic.

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: I think Cashman's trying to get fired. It really does seem that way, doesn't it? The yapping's rather... uncharacteristic.

Final year on his deal. Maybe he _would_ rather work elsewhere, and sees the Soriano deal is a black mark and is justbeing vocal that it wasnt' his call.

[Benjamin Grimm]

It's not hard to imagine that George Steinbrenner's kids might be even more dickish than their father.

[Frayed Knot]

At least two articles in the past week or so - one was Bill Madden, I forget the other - suggested that it's looking increasingly like Cashman wants out.
The spouting off in the news conference about the Soriano signing not being his idea was the major piece of evidence. There were also hints about him probably taking an even tougher stance with Jeter if left to his own devices (like two years tops or there's the door) and other such stuff. The idea is that he's wary (and probably weary) of being known as the guy who does little but write big checks (he's said that flat out) and is almost making it sound like he'd be happier in a small market job.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Holy shit. Goldman should be ashamed. Also why I tend not to trust MetsBlog.

http://www.theyankeeu.com/2011/01/yes-censors-affiliated-blogs-over-rafael-soriano-criticism-24584

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

No huge surprise, really, other than the bloggers' prompt acquiesence. Check the editorial content on the YES site and YES itself.

But, dude, SNY ain't YES. (Praises be to Le Grand Orange upstairs for that.)

[metirish]

I can imagine how it works. Levine has a fool watching those sites and when the offending articles appear he makes a call and said fool has to call Goldman to tell him of Levin's displeasure. ...of course what probably happened is that Goldman gets a call from a high priced firm and told to get it the fuck down or else.

[Frayed Knot]

btw YES did not even cover the Soriano introductory presser, sort of making his signing the corporate equivalent of hiring a minority in the 1950s but then sneaking the new guy in through the kitchen door lest anyone raise a fuss.

But of course the station has a ton of other things on their plate during the winter months so maybe there wasn't time. There's the Francesa show for instance ... except that there was no time conflict in this case. There's also their Nets schedule and the occasional Ivy League hoops game ... except that the Soriano thing was in the morning so that wasn't a problem either. No, your friends at YES were showing an old Yanqui game at the time - specifically the Luis Castillo drop-pop game.

Ahhh yes (or ahhh YES), journalism at its finest.

[seawolf17]

I'm fighting with Gene Wojciechowski on Twitter. He's trying to compare Jeter to Robin Yount. The good news is that I got him to retweet me calling Jeter "Captain Intangibles."

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Speaking of Tweets, Ian O'Connor had this gem:

If Jeter moves in a few years, I see left field, not center. the #Yankees used to win titles with everyone and his brother playing LF.

Centerfield? Did anyone ever, for even a moment, think Jeter could play center?

[Guest Edgy DC]

I thinik Yount is a pretty comparable player. He hit the outfield mid-career --- around 30 --- however, which was about the time Jeter started winning Gold Gloves.

Of course he could play center. Could he play it well? He doesn't have to. He didn't play shortsop well and they gave him awards for it.

[ashie62]

Jeter who?

[seawolf17]

Edgy DC wrote: I thinik Yount is a pretty comparable player. He hit the outfield mid-career --- around 30 --- however, which was about the time Jeter started winning Gold Gloves.

See, that's just it. Yount was "mid-career" when he switched, but Jeter's not "mid-career." He's "end-career." Learning a new position at 38 is going to be hilarious.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't know. Outfielding isn't that nuanced. If you're a big league ballplayer and legs still work, you can do a passable job.

And again, unless the ball is consistently bouncing off his person, everybody will pretend he's doing OK anyway.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Do you suppose that A-Rod will replace Jeter at SS?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Nope.

[batmagadanleadoff]

What about you?

[Guest Edgy DC]

My shortstop days are over. I got a thing in my shoulder.

[dgwphotography]

Nope - I fear they are eying someone else...

[metirish]

dgwphotography wrote: Nope - I fear they are eying someone else...

Jimmy Rollins?...oh wait......fuck

[ashie62]

Jose Reyes