IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[bmfc1]

PR for Ike. Use Castillo. If the game proceeds, he's in anyway for Tejada.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Fair enough. Castillo for Ike, he stays in to play second, Hessman comes in for Carter next inning, Thole to catch. (Assuming a tie.)

[Zvon]

What's all this then?

Come on Thole. Keep things going.

[Zvon]

PR for Ike. Use Castillo. If the game proceeds, he's in anyway for Tejada.[/quote:2eltwi58]

I agree. That non move is very odd.

[Zvon]

Are we gonna waste another fine pitching performance?
wassupw/dat?

[Zvon]

yep.
shame on you Mets.

[bmfc1]

Early in the game, Gary said something to the effect of "if they win today, then they play the Marlins who aren't as good as they were earlier in the year, and then they play Houston, so if they can get from 7 and a half to 5 games back by September 1st, anything is possible."

You know what's not possible? Scoring 2 runs against Zach Duke. Also, it would be nice to have a manager that understands baseball as least as much as we do or any other idiot on Twitter because I checked the #mets Twitter feed and the masses were incredulous that Jerry didn't PR for Ike.

[Zvon]

Why would he not PR for Ike?
I can't think of one reason.
I imagine he will be asked and the why should be interesting.

Not that it mattered in the end.
If you can't score 3 runs today you pretty much suck.

Santana is a great sport and all but even he has to be shaking his head and muttering under his breath, like I am right now.

[Zvon]

Milledge homered?
Ugh.
The last person I wanted to see beat us.

[Guest Kong76]

I fell asleep in my chair twice during the game. I never do that.

[Frayed Knot]

I thought of pinch-running for Ike before he even got on.
Other than that, Carter had a very nice AB but got unlucky. Thole tried to do the same (go to LF with the hard stuff and be ready to yank something slower) but got screwed by McClellan.
It was nice of Pitt mgr Russell to pull his 8th inning guy Meek who was humming along for the designated closer who wasn't - lest we think it's only Jerry who does such things.
But none of that matters when you score the first batter of the game and then never again. I've seen that movie already and I know the ending by heart.

[G-Fafif]

Two complete game losses in a row for Johan. Gotta be the first time for that since whenever CG's were commonplace. Same for the three consecutive CG's.

But I'm still trying to get over this Justin Turner news.

[G-Fafif]

According to Baseball Reference, last time a Met lost two consecutive complete game starts was Jerry Koosman in 1977.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

According to Baseball Reference, last time a Met lost two consecutive complete game starts was Jerry Koosman in 1977.[/quote:229sscym]

That portends well.

[Zvon]

According to Baseball Reference, last time a Met lost two consecutive complete game starts was Jerry Koosman in 1977.[/quote:3r3h8zj7]
wow.
I'm watching this game now.
So Jose was ripped off his 2nd at bat by another bad call against the Mets.
How could the ump mess up that call?
Yikes.

[G-Fafif]

According to Baseball Reference, last time a Met lost two consecutive complete game starts was Jerry Koosman in 1977.[/quote:1oa0rtq6]

That portends well.[/quote:1oa0rtq6]

Last Met with three consecutive complete games, either decision, David Cone in 1990. He won two of the three.

Kooz in '76 and Seaver in '69 hold the record with 8 consecutive CG's. Johan the first Met to pitch as many as 4 CG's in one season since Pedro Martinez in 2005.

[Zvon]

Kooz in '76 and Seaver in '69 hold the record with 8 consecutive CG's. [/quote:3rlkgwoo]
8 in a row!
That's something else.

I'm reading a book about the world series and, i should go get the book and confirm this before I post it, but I do believe during the 56 WS there were 8 complete games pitched.

That just totally amazed me.

[G-Fafif]

I'm reading a book about the world series and, i should go get the book and confirm this before I post it, but I do believe during the 56 WS there were 8 complete games pitched.

That just totally amazed me.[/quote:15t74py2]

Yup: 6 for the winning pitchers, 2 for the losing pitchers.

Take that, Darold Knowles.

[Zvon]

Just saw the Milledge homer. Pitch up in the zone.
Santana knew it was gone right off the bat, and simply lowered his head.

Man, that was crushed.

Damn you Lastings. Damn you.

[Zvon]

Tabata?
Who the fuck is Tabada?

Ew, bad pitch by Santana.
May as well have let him put it on a tee.

[Zvon]

I'm in the 8th.
Should I even watch the end of this?
Has the season itself been enough torture?

I guess I do wanna see that next Davis at bat, from what I read here.

[Zvon]

Ugh, the pain I am experiencing watching Santana pitch so awsum and knowing he is not gotta get a win here.

Someone hit me upside the head with a brick please.

[Zvon]

Yow. Just saw Ikes foul blast.
And he singles and this is where I came in.

Yea, even the booth called for a PR for Davis if he should reach. They did touch on it after the single but didn't dwell on it.

When you are in the 9th, down by a run, and a slow guy gets on, AND you can easily afford to do it (Castillo 2 run, Hessman to 1st if we tie it)
its just good fundamental baseball to do that.

I don't wanna get stuck on this but win or lose, we need to at least do these kinds of things right.

[Zvon]

So I get to see us lose twice today.

Isn't that special?

[batmagadanleadoff]

For the month of August, all four regular Mets starting pitchers have ERA's under 3.00:

Santana -- 31 1/3 IP - 2.30 ERA
Pelfrey -- 26 2/3 - 2.36
Dickey -- 26 1/3 - 2.73
Niese -- 30 1/3 - 2.97

[metirish]

lenno212

Santana became first #Mets pitcher to pitch three straight CGs since Davdi Cone in 1990. First to lose back-to-back CGs since Koosman in '77

[MFS62]

For the month of August, all four regular Mets starting pitchers have ERA's under 3.00:

Santana -- 31 1/3 IP - 2.30 ERA
Pelfrey -- 26 2/3 - 2.36
Dickey -- 26 1/3 - 2.73
Niese -- 30 1/3 - 2.97[/quote:3gi3jbbh]

So, who is going to be the first Mets starter to go postal in the press- really rip into the offense?
Or will any of them do it?
They all keep saying the right things, and you know it must be eating them up inside.

Later

[batmagadanleadoff]

For the month of August, all four regular Mets starting pitchers have ERA's under 3.00:

Santana -- 31 1/3 IP - 2.30 ERA
Pelfrey -- 26 2/3 - 2.36
Dickey -- 26 1/3 - 2.73
Niese -- 30 1/3 - 2.97[/quote:lc2tqhr4]

So, who is going to be the first Mets starter to go postal in the press- really rip into the offense?
Or will any of them do it?
They all keep saying the right things, and you know it must be eating them up inside.

Later[/quote:lc2tqhr4]

Might as well add Misch to the [crossout:lc2tqhr4]under 3.00[/crossout:lc2tqhr4] 3.00 and under list:

Santana -- 39 1/3 IP - 2.29 ERA
Pelfrey -- 26 2/3 - 2.36
Dickey -- 26 1/3 - 2.73
Niese -- 30 1/3 - 2.97
Misch -- 12 - 3.00

The five starters are a combined 6-9 with a cumulative ERA of 2.69 for the month of August.