I.D.T. -- In-Draft Thread 2010

[Frayed Knot]

They're going to milk this as if each team actually needs the 5 minutes they're allowed.
Take away the TV cameras and this thing goes twice as fast.

[Frayed Knot]

#1 - Bryce Harper

The Nats have had six months to think about this but apparently needed another five minutes.

[Guest attgig]

ah. new thread.

#1 got announced as an OF'er

[Guest attgig]

#2 Jameson Taillon

[Guest attgig]

machado
colon
pomeranz
loux.


mets are now on the clock. will they go for cox?

[Valadius]

On the clock, I want a hitter or a Pelfrey clone.

[Guest attgig]

#7
Matt Harvey. RHP UNC

[Valadius]

ANOTHER pitcher? He better be good.

[Guest attgig]

previously drafted in 07 3rd round by angels.

bio on unc website:
http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/harvey_matt00.html

his draft preview vid:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7604027


Matt Harvey - P
North Carolina, Jr.
Birthdate: 3/27/1989
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 225 lbs.
Bats: Right
Throws: Right
Scout's report filed: 3/26/10
Scouting Report
Fastball: Harvey was throwing his fastball up to 96-97 mph and sustaining the velocity deep into his start.

Fastball movement: There's some decent life to it.

Slider: It's a relatively new pitch for him, so it's not always sharp, though he showed some glimpses of a decent slider.

Curve: In high school, he featured a pure, overhand power curve. He's gone more to the slider, though he'll still throw the curve on occasion.

Changeup: He doesn't use it much, but he's got a feel for it, and it could be an average offering.

Control: Command has often been an issue for Harvey. While it's been better, it's still not pinpoint control.

Poise: He's improved his mound presence and worked on maintaining the same approach regardless of what happens around him.

Physical Description: Harvey has filled out his 6-foot-4 frame quite a bit in college and is a big and durable-looking right-hander.

Medical Update: Healthy.

Strengths: He showed a plus fastball and shows flashes of the above-average breaking stuff he once had. He's also got a feel for a changeup.

Weaknesses: There are still some delivery issues, though what got him out of whack as a sophomore has largely been corrected. Command is still a problem at times.

Summary: Once a top high school prospect, Harvey has reclaimed his status as a first-round candidate with a resurgent junior season. The delivery problems that had him so off his game as a sophomore have largely been corrected, though there are still some issues there that can effect his command and ability to throw his breaking ball. Still, Harvey was showing an above-average to plus fastball and maintaining his velocity, to go along with glimpses of good breaking stuff and a feel for a change. He's come a long way this season, and he likely won't have to wait too long to be redrafted.

[Guest attgig]

seems like not so sure of a thing for a #7 pick...

[seawolf17]

Call him up.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Sounds like another power arm if it all works out for Harvey.

Draft is tough since you can pretend you like everything in the store but buy only one item.

Feeling old -- Delino DeShields Jr.?

[Frayed Knot]

attgig wrote: seems like not so sure of a thing for a #7 pick...

Nothing is a sure thing, even at this level.
A quick run-down of the history of first round picks would dampen a lot of fan enthusiasm.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Gotta admire the Matt Dillon "Something About Mary" mustache.

[Frayed Knot]

Who woulda thought that Texas-Arlington is in Arlington, Texas.
Thanx Bud.

Do you get the idea that Bud could somehow manage to be stiff at a Hawai'in luau even after downing about ten umbrella drinks?

[Gwreck]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Sounds like another power arm if it all works out for Harvey. Draft is tough since you can pretend you like everything in the store but buy only one item. Feeling old -- Delino DeShields Jr.?

Same here, although Delino Sr. did have the kid when he was 23.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Valadius wrote: On the clock, I want a hitter or a Pelfrey clone.

Valadius wrote: ANOTHER pitcher? He better be good.

Classic Met fan moment.

[Frayed Knot]

He just wanted to be on the record in advance that he's against bad draft picks.

[Guest Edgy DC]

But isn't creeped out by cloning.

[nymr83]

from mets blog:

Mets scout Marlin McPhail watched one outing this season is which Harvey threw 157 pitches. McPhail confessed after watching: "You tend to get a little nervous, quite frankly."

I'm not Mr. Pitch Count or anything but 157 for a 20 year old kid? wow.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

Edgy DC wrote: Valadius wrote: On the clock, I want a hitter or a Pelfrey clone. Valadius wrote: ANOTHER pitcher? He better be good. Classic Met fan moment.

Especially when coupled with this quote at the end of Amazin' Avenue's scouting report on Harvey.

If there is any pitcher on the Mets who thats comparable to, it�s Pelfrey, as it�s almost a carbon copy of his scouting report. If Harvey works on his plant and speeds up his delivery in the minors, he really should be almost a big Pelf clone without all the licking.

Heh.

At the #7 spot, I'd rather have a pitcher that already actually throws a legitimate breaking ball instead of a Pelfrey clone with a huge learning curve. But, if the results end up being the same as the one's Mike has ended up with this season, I suppose I can't really complain.

[Valadius]

Is Marlin related to the famous McPhail family?

[Frayed Knot]

Pelfrey was a more accomplished pitcher at his age than Harvey is now.
The difference is that 2005 was considered one of the best drafts in recent year while this one is thought of as very thin. And, luckily for us, several teams passed on Pelfrey in favor of other pitchers (Ricky Romero -Tor #6, Wade Townsend - #8) leaving him still open at pick #9

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

IIRC, people passed on Pelfrey largely due to the Boras/signability issue. Harvey should be an easier go.

But then, Harvey's like Pelfrey without the control.

I REALLY could have used Josh Sale or Michael Choice here. But what do I know?

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: IIRC, people passed on Pelfrey largely due to the Boras/signability issue. Harvey should be an easier go.

More evidence the Mets go over-slot/sign guys when they feel they're worth it? shocker..

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

That is to say, folks who purport to know say that Harvey comes on as an easier sign.

There are some conspiracy theorists who've suggested it might be a good idea that the Mets pick someone "unsignable" in this year's draft, in order to essentially defer to next year's (which seems stronger on paper). They don't seem to have done that here.

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: That is to say, folks who purport to know say that Harvey comes on as an easier sign. There are some conspiracy theorists who've suggested it might be a good idea that the Mets pick someone "unsignable" in this year's draft, in order to essentially defer to next year's (which seems stronger on paper). They don't seem to have done that here.

There are also people that think the Mets will finish near, or at, the bottom of the division and would get a good draft pick anyway.

I doubt Harvey is unsignable. Boras generally gets his guys signed, and while he does have a senior year to fall back on, doesn't seem like the route they want to go. Plus it's his second time in the draft, so I doubt he would've done that if he wasn't serious. I generally point and laugh at conspiracy theorists though.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Worth noting, I think: the Rays (whose scouting department has done an impeccable job over the last 5-10 years, both in talent identification and selecting guys in whom their system can bring out the best) yoinked HS thwompers Josh Sale and Justin O'Conner-- the SS/C?-- with their picks.

[Guest Edgy DC]

We've got enough overthinkers without conspiracy theorists.

And the Rays did a great job building a margin for error out of nine last places (and one next-to-last) in ten years.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

They're loaded for bear for the next five years. They can let Crawford and Pena walk after this year and be okay for the next 2-3 years besides. Though I doubt they'll do it, they can let Longoria and Zobrist once they hit the free-agent market and still be contenders, assuming no ridiculous rashes of injuries. They are that deep in the high minors.

I'm not saying I wish I were a Rays fan. I'm saying that the way they've run their minor leagues and draft recently is enviable, and I would gladly fart in my mother's face if some mystical invisible hand would swap Andrew Freeman and Omar.