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Takahashi will Kiboshi the Phillies: IGT 5/26/10 PHIL@NYM


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From today's Philadephia Daily News:

Shane Victorino hit from a different side of the plate against him. Ryan Howard hit him with a line drive. Neither strategy could stop R.A. Dickey, who became the latest starting pitcher - and the second straight knuckleballer - to shut down a Phillies team that appears to have entered one of its periodic recessions.


http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20100526_Against_Mets__Phillies_knuckle_under_again.html#axzz0p2wnXbTT


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Hopefully the periodic recession lasts through the week. That's what happens when you have a mainly offensive (two meanings to that one) ballclub, and it's why the 93 wins from last season is probably their ceiling and why they definitely won't run away with the division and can be caught. Especially since the Mets play them 12 times from August 4th-EOS (hey, we may even have Beltran back by then!)


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Turk Wendell & Pratt for Gary Bennett & Bruce Chen?


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Hopefully the periodic recession lasts through the week. That's what happens when you have a mainly offensive (two meanings to that one) ballclub, and it's why the 93 wins from last season is probably their ceiling and why they definitely won't run away with the division and can be caught. Especially since the Mets play them 12 times from August 4th-EOS (hey, we may even have Beltran back by then!)[/quote:ce4l6xhr]

All good thoughts. And your scenarios might also save Jerry's job.


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Turk Wendell & Pratt for Gary Bennett & Bruce Chen?[/quote:1ryxjagw]

That trade never happened. You melded a few distinct trades into one. But you're close.


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Hopefully the periodic recession lasts through the week. That's what happens when you have a mainly offensive (two meanings to that one) ballclub, and it's why the 93 wins from last season is probably their ceiling and why they definitely won't run away with the division and can be caught. Especially since the Mets play them 12 times from August 4th-EOS (hey, we may even have Beltran back by then!)[/quote:177k4pn0]

All good thoughts. And your scenarios might also save Jerry's job.[/quote:177k4pn0]

I never thought Jerry was going to be fired this year coming in. There were points during the season when I thought it got close, but I also think we're past that now. I think Bay and Reyes heating up will keep this team above .500 and climbing. So unless we get a zany sex scandal with Mr. Met's wife or something...

He'd be good comic relief at the parade. Fire him after that.


I can't think of the trade. I did see a Wendell shirt Friday night at the ballpark though. Haven't uploaded it yet or I'd link it. going to 3 of the last 4 games kinda saps free time.


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Yeah, I forget. I guess it was Cook and Wendell in the same deal for Chen, and Pratt-Bennett went before that.


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Are you denying me a cigar? I just looked it up and confirmed I was right the second time, but for a minor league throw in who never arrived in NY.


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Are you denying me a cigar? I just looked it up and confirmed I was right the second time, but for a minor league throw in who never arrived in NY.
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Are you denying me a cigar? I just looked it up and confirmed I was right the second time, but for a minor league throw in who never arrived in NY.
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I recommend cautious optimism. Remember, they smacked around the Phillies in the first game of the last series, then tumbled into the abyss.

Of course the Phillies were caught cheating after that series. So their "recession" might only last until they figure out that someone out of uniform should be using the binocs....


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Trying not to count chickens here, too, MGiM.

But I do like the matchups this week-- knuckleballer, lefty-junkballer-with-hitch-in-delivery, fastball/demi-splitter-heavy Pelf. It's as if the pitching order were specifically sequenced to keep a patient offensive giant off-balance... and almost as if Manuel et. al. planned it that way.





Oh, I say such silly things sometimes!


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Yeah, I forget. I guess it was Cook and Wendell in the same deal for Chen, and Pratt-Bennett went before that.
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Trying not to count chickens here, too, MGiM.

But I do like the matchups this week-- knuckleballer, lefty-junkballer-with-hitch-in-delivery, fastball/demi-splitter-heavy Pelf. It's as if the pitching order were specifically sequenced to keep a patient offensive giant off-balance... and almost as if Manuel et. al. planned it that way.





Oh, I say such silly things sometimes![/quote:468fx93m]


a slumping "patient offensive giant" you should add. I liked the matchups. still do. Takahashi, new face, that hitch, slumping already, should keep them offbalance. Pelfrey is a fighter, and I trust him to be competitive. If all the Mets bats performed the way they're capable of, they can be just as dangerous an offensive club, and they're waking up. Blanton's not that good and they've always hit Hamels well (who really isn't throwing that well).

btw, the Mets have reached a tied for 4th place. moving on up!


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Jose Reyes - SS
Luis Castillo � 2B
Jason Bay � LF
Ike Davis � 1B
David Wright � 3B
Angel Pagan � CF
Rod Barajas � C
Jeff Francoeur � RF
Hisanori Takahashi - LHP

vs

Victorino CF
Polanco 3B,
Utley 2B,
Howard 1B,
Werth RF,
Francisco LF
Valdez SS
Schneider C
Blanton P.


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We'll see if Schneider can do better against his former mates than Figueroa.


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In vague recognition of the return of the unlamented Brian Schneider, today's triptych consists of each player who was a Met, a Phillie and an Expo.

Most distinguished from a Met standpoint: Pedro Martinez, Endy Chavez, Todd Zeile.

Not all that distinguished, but not completely forgotten by those predisposed to remembering: Don Hahn, Del Unser, Willie Montanez.

The rest: Schneider, Bill Almon, Tom Gorman, Greg Harris, Barry Jones, Mike Maddux, Dan Schatzeder, Wayne Twitchell.

AND, visiting from the Mets-O's-Reds grouping: the peripatetic Bruce Chen!


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Victorino, Francisco (hitting like GMJ), Valdez and Schneider. Those four aren't exactly making up a "scary world beating" Phillies lineup.

I caught Jody Macdonald saying the Phillies top 6 (ignore that back crap right?) is light years better than the Mets top 6, and would cause the Phillies to run away with the division. I'm not sure they're even just 'better'.


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We'll see if Schneider can do better against his former mates than Figueroa.[/quote:1bfb6yh1]

And don't forget Oil Spill.

The Francisco sub for Ibanez MAY make sense on paper-- the paper in "the book," anyway. But Takahashi-- like Valdes, Santana and most other screwball/change-up-dependent lefties-- tends toward reverse splits. We'll see.


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