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How do you grade the performances of each of the 2009 Mets, using the A (best) to F (Worst) scale?
Please tell us your scoring criteria.

Later
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Omir Santos
Daniel Murphy
Luis Castillo#
Alex Cora*
David Wright
Gary Sheffield
Carlos Beltran#
Jeff Francoeur
Fernando Tatis
Angel Pagan#
Brian Schneider*
Jeremy Reed*
Jose Reyes#
Cory Sullivan*
Anderson Hernandez#
Carlos Delgado*
Fernando Martinez*
Wilson Valdez
Nick Evans
Josh Thole*
Ramon Martinez
Angel Berroa
Argenis Reyes#
Emil Brown
Andy Green
Robinson Cancel

Mike Pelfrey
Johan Santana*
Tim Redding
John Maine
Nelson Figueroa
Oliver Perez*
Patrick Misch*
Bobby Parnell
Fernando Nieve
Jonathon Niese*
Ken Takahashi*
Sean Green
Brian Stokes
Pedro Feliciano*
Tobi Stoner
Lance Broadway
J.J. Putz
Elmer Dessens
K-Rod


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Posted (edited)


What's with the designations in front of certain players?

Omir Santos - C-
Daniel Murphy - C
Luis Castillo# - B+
Alex Cora* - D
David Wright - C
Gary Sheffield - C
Carlos Beltran# - C
Jeff Francoeur - B-
Fernando Tatis - C
Angel Pagan# - C+
Brian Schneider* - E
Jeremy Reed* - D
Jose Reyes# - NA
Cory Sullivan* - C
Anderson Hernandez# - C
Carlos Delgado* - NA
Fernando Martinez* - D
Wilson Valdez - C
Nick Evans - D
Josh Thole* - C
Ramon Martinez - D on't remember
Angel Berroa - D
Argenis Reyes# - D
Emil Brown - NA
Andy Green - NA
Robinson Cancel - NA

Mike Pelfrey - D
Johan Santana* - B-
Tim Redding - D-
John Maine - D
Nelson Figueroa - C+
Oliver Perez* - E
Patrick Misch* - C+
Bobby Parnell - C-
Fernando Nieve D
Jonathon Niese* - C
Ken Takahashi* - D
Sean Green - D
Brian Stokes - C
Pedro Feliciano* - B
Tobi Stoner - NA
Lance Broadway - NA
J.J. Putz - D
Elmer Dessens - C


Grades based initial remembrances

Hard to grade some players thus the NA...


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What's with the designations in front of certain players?

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I did a cut and paste from baseball-reference.com.
May be some leftover code, but I can't see it with my browser.

Later


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As with my mid-season grades, C= met the expectations I had for the player. Injury time was NOT taken into account, only on-field performance was considered..



Omir Santos B
Daniel Murphy* D
Luis Castillo# B
Alex Cora* B
David Wright D
Gary Sheffield B
Carlos Beltran# B
Jeff Francoeur B
Fernando Tatis C
Angel Pagan# B
Brian Schneider* D
Jeremy Reed* D
Jose Reyes# D
Cory Sullivan* C
Anderson Hernandez# C
Carlos Delgado* B
Fernando Martinez * D
Wilson Valdez INC
Nick Evans D
Josh Thole* B
Ramon Martinez INC
Angel Berroa INC
Argenis Reyes# C
Emil Brown INC
Andy Green INC
Robinson Cancel INC

Mike Pelfrey D
Johan Santana* C
Tim Redding B
John Maine D
Nelson Figueroa B
Oliver Perez* F
Patrick Misch* B
Bobby Parnell D
Fernando Nieve B
Jonathon Niese* B
Ken Takahashi* INC
Sean Green C
Brian Stokes B
Pedro Feliciano* B
Tobi Stoner INC
Lance Broadway D
J.J. Putz D
Elmer Dessens C
K-Rod C

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Based upon realistic expectations of what the player is capable of (you can't grade Sullivan the same way you'd grade Beltran):

Omir Santos B
Daniel Murphy C
Luis Castillo# D
Alex Cora* C
David Wright B
Gary Sheffield B
Carlos Beltran# INC
Jeff Francoeur B
Fernando Tatis B
Angel Pagan# B
Brian Schneider* F
Jeremy Reed* C
Jose Reyes# INC
Cory Sullivan* B
Anderson Hernandez# F
Carlos Delgado* INC
Fernando Martinez* F
Wilson Valdez B
Nick Evans INC
Josh Thole* B
Ramon Martinez F (I don't even remember him)
Angel Berroa F
Argenis Reyes# F
Emil Brown F
Andy Green C (only for getting a walk that inspired a FAFIF column)
Robinson Cancel F

Mike Pelfrey C
Johan Santana* B
Tim Redding C
John Maine INC
Nelson Figueroa B
Oliver Perez* F
Patrick Misch* B
Bobby Parnell B (as a reliever), D (as a starter)
Fernando Nieve B
Jonathon Niese* B
Ken Takahashi* C
Sean Green C
Brian Stokes C
Pedro Feliciano* A
Tobi Stoner INC
Lance Broadway C
J.J. Putz INC
Elmer Dessens C
Frankie Rodriguez C


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Omir Santos C
Daniel Murphy C-
Luis Castillo# C
Alex Cora* C
David Wright C
Gary Sheffield B
Carlos Beltran# B+
Jeff Francoeur B-
Fernando Tatis B-
Angel Pagan# B+
Brian Schneider* F
Jeremy Reed* D
Jose Reyes# INC
Cory Sullivan* C-
Anderson Hernandez# C-
Carlos Delgado* INC
Fernando Martinez* D
Wilson Valdez C
Nick Evans INC
Josh Thole* B
Ramon Martinez INC
Angel Berroa INC
Argenis Reyes# INC
Emil Brown INC
Andy Green INC
Robinson Cancel INC

Mike Pelfrey C-
Johan Santana* B+
Tim Redding D
John Maine C
Nelson Figueroa B
Oliver Perez* F
Patrick Misch* B
Bobby Parnell B-
Fernando Nieve B
Jonathon Niese* B
Ken Takahashi* B-
Sean Green C-
Brian Stokes B-
Pedro Feliciano* A-
Tobi Stoner INC
Lance Broadway INC
J.J. Putz D
Elmer Dessens INC


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Mets = F

lets move on.[/quote:369j2kc8]

I'm with Vic. I don't feel like wallowing in the details.

Interesting that Francisco Rodriguez didn't make the list of Mets to be graded. Strange that Angel Berroa gets remembered and Frankie doesn't.


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Well, it's a message board that at times has nothing going on and '62 made the effort to get people posting.


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Mets = F
lets move on.[/quote:2prybecw]

Waddaya mean "F"? If it was so bad, wouldn't the GM have gotten fired? Wouldn't the manager have gotten fired? All they needed to do was to a) get rid of the bench coach; B) get rid of the 1B coach; c) reassign the 3B coach; and (here's the key), d) tell the manager and GM to "step up or else!"


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Interesting that Francisco Rodriguez didn't make the list of Mets to be graded. Strange that Angel Berroa gets remembered and Frankie doesn't.[/quote:3az2cglj]
Fixed.
When I copied the list, I came up a line short.

Thanks,
Later


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Upon what I thought each player was capable of whether they were here opening day or later. I did penalize for injury.

Omir Santos B
Daniel Murphy C+
Luis Castillo# B+
Alex Cora* B-
David Wright C-
Gary Sheffield C
Carlos Beltran# C-
Jeff Francoeur B+
Fernando Tatis C-
Angel Pagan# B
Brian Schneider* D
Jeremy Reed* C
Jose Reyes# D-
Cory Sullivan* C+
Anderson Hernandez# C
Carlos Delgado* D-
Fernando Martinez* F
Wilson Valdez C
Nick Evans F
Josh Thole* B
Ramon Martinez These next 6 have no grade point average
Angel Berroa
Argenis Reyes#
Emil Brown
Andy Green
Robinson Cancel

Mike Pelfrey C-
Johan Santana* B
Tim Redding C-
John Maine D
Nelson Figueroa C+
Oliver Perez* F
Patrick Misch* D
Bobby Parnell C
Fernando Nieve C
Jonathon Niese* C
Ken Takahashi* D
Sean Green B-
Brian Stokes B-
Pedro Feliciano* A-
Tobi Stoner N/A
Lance Broadway N/A
J.J. Putz F
Elmer Dessens C
K-Rod F

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Posted


I was at that game in Washington. Since I was there, I didn't have the benefit of a replay, but I seem to recall that incident being the fault of the lead runner, who either stopped or retreated when he shouldn't have.


Posted


I was there, too (we should have met somewhere BG). It was Castillo (of course) who stopped because he wasn't sure if the ball was trapped.


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Hitters:

500+ PAs
Wright = B (121 OPS+ / 96 RC)
Castillo = C (96 / 70)
Murphy = D (94 / 66)

300-500 PAs
Beltran = B+ (141 / 66)
Pagan = B (119 / 59)
Francoeur = B- (118 /48)
Sheff = B- (117/45)
Tatis = C (104/48)
Santos = D (80/31)
Cora = F (68/30)

100-300 PAs
Delgado = B/ Inc (139/20)
Reyes = C/ Inc (98/23)
Church = D/ Inc (87/28)
Sullivan = D (90/18)
AHernandez = D (81/15)
Reed = F (61/14)
Schneider = F (65/17)
F.Martinez = F (37/7)

no grades for:
Valdez
Castro
Evans
Thole
RMartinez
Berroa
AReyes
EBrown
AGreen
Anderson
Cancel

Pitchers:

Starters
Santana = B+ (134 ERA+ / 166 IP)
Figueroa = C
Misch = C
Nieve = C / Inc
Niese = C / Inc
Pelfrey = D
Redding = D
Livan = F
Ollie P = F / Inc

Relievers
Feliciano = B+ (138 / 88g)
F-Rod = B-
Stokes = C
Greem = C
Parnell = C (SP=F)
Dessens = C-
Takahashi = C-
Putz = F / Inc

no grades for:
Broadway
Stoner
Fossum
Switzer
ODay
Wagner


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