Meister Brau SuoTG 6/10/09 - Phillies 5, Mets 4

[Guest Edgy DC]

Big guns drawing from the skunky keg tonight.

Sheffield -2.41
Beltran -2.24
Tatis -2.10
Murphy -1.21
Parnell -0.84
Schneider -0.61
Castillo -0.31
Green -0.28

[Gwreck]

Can't forget Dan Iassagona.

[Willets Point]

When did we start this exercise in wound licking?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Just keying on the issues.

The issue that comes out of that is that the three and four hitters weren't advancing the cause with men on base.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="Edgy DC":1oo6q955]Just keying on the issues. The issue that comes out of that is that the three and four hitters weren't advancing the cause with men on base.[/quote:1oo6q955] To specify: those hitters owned half of last night's LOB, and not only did they not advance the cause, they actually impeded said cause in certain cases (Beltran's 4th inning "DP," bogus as it was, kept at least 1 run off the board).

metsmarathon Jun 11 2009 12:17 PM

hmm... that was actually easier to implement than i had feared! Green 3.3 Parnell 2.0 Murphy 1.2 Sheffield 1.1 Schneider 0.1 the same upgrade can be readily made to little m.e.t.b.o.t. as well (if only his input file were ready for today)! beltran would've gotten some negative points if only his missed catch counted as an error, or if i hadn't taken out the hooks for misplays/mistakes htat aren't considered/scored as errors. but i took that out. and its a bitch to add things in midseason. i've already decided to put it back in there for next year.

Edgy DC Jun 11 2009 12:25 PM

I owe Green more juice.

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2009 12:34 PM

Not to take this exercise too seriously since it doesn't really mean anything, but Green did alright for himself last night even if the raw results don't show it. The outing was more like a continuation of his good pitching lately than a meltdown. He came with the bases loaded, no one out and gave up: - a soft single barely over Wright's glove (run scores) - a slow chopper which resulted in an error (run scores) - a strikeout - another slow chopper hit too shitty to turn a DP (run scores) - an inning-ending groundout The results say 3 inherited runners/all allowed to score. But, short of striking out the side or a come-backer DP, that's a near-impossible situation for a reliever to look good and Pelfrey & the defense deserve a lot more lumps for that inning than Green.

Edgy DC Jun 11 2009 12:40 PM

OK, then I did a'ight.

[metsmarathon]

hmm... that was actually easier to implement than i had feared!

Green 3.3
Parnell 2.0
Murphy 1.2
Sheffield 1.1
Schneider 0.1

the same upgrade can be readily made to little m.e.t.b.o.t. as well (if only his input file were ready for today)!

beltran would've gotten some negative points if only his missed catch counted as an error, or if i hadn't taken out the hooks for misplays/mistakes htat aren't considered/scored as errors.

but i took that out. and its a bitch to add things in midseason. i've already decided to put it back in there for next year.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I owe Green more juice.

[Frayed Knot]

Not to take this exercise too seriously since it doesn't really mean anything, but Green did alright for himself last night even if the raw results don't show it. The outing was more like a continuation of his good pitching lately than a meltdown.

He came with the bases loaded, no one out and gave up:
- a soft single barely over Wright's glove (run scores)
- a slow chopper which resulted in an error (run scores)
- a strikeout
- another slow chopper hit too shitty to turn a DP (run scores)
- an inning-ending groundout

The results say 3 inherited runners/all allowed to score. But, short of striking out the side or a come-backer DP, that's a near-impossible situation for a reliever to look good and Pelfrey & the defense deserve a lot more lumps for that inning than Green.

[Guest Edgy DC]

OK, then I did a'ight.