Waivers

[nymr83]

O'Day is a Ranger now, fuck.
Figueroa has cleared waivers, nice guy to have around, though its technically now up to him if he wants to accept the assignment or not.

[Fman99]

="Nymr83":15lxl2y3]O'Day is a Ranger now, fuck. Figueroa has cleared waivers, nice guy to have around, though its technically now up to him if he wants to accept the assignment or not.[/quote:15lxl2y3] I'm surprised, given his quality start, that no one wanted to grab him. What with all the crumbums out there starting MLB games.

Ashie62 Apr 22 2009 08:11 PM

Give him a holster! Ranger O'Day at your service*

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2009 07:10 AM

- So O'Day arrives in Toronto with the Rangers-Jays game already in progress. - The Rangers tie it up in the 9th, getting 3 off BJ Ryan, so they go to extras. - O'Day gets called on with 2-on in the 11th and, while wearing someone else's jersey [Gabbard - 30] because they didn't have one made up for him yet, he serves up a walk-off gapper to Kevin Millar. It's never too late to make a first impression.

Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 07:19 AM

Give the loss to Gabbard.

smg58 Apr 23 2009 07:21 AM

I'm surprised Figueroa cleared waivers as well. There have to be teams out there with worse guys in the rotation than him. But if he didn't clear waivers, I don't see how he gets a major-league contract from somebody should he opt for free agency.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 23 2009 07:46 AM

Today's Snooze says Figgy eill refuse his Buff assignemnt. Adios. Freddy Garcia in the meantime made his debut for Buff last night: 6 IP, 3 ER and a loss. Not great but not awful either I guess.

Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 07:59 AM

Half of me thinks he refused the assignment because his wife followed the link back here, read our (more or less gentle) comments, and went apeshit and told him they were through with the Mets.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 23 2009 08:02 AM

29 teams declined to claim him on waivers, so he refuses his assignment to Buffalo? I guess he'd rather be on a AAA team in some other organization. Figgy must be really pissed at the Mets. They're, at least nominally, a contending team that has several weaknesses in their starting rotation. It doesn't seem like a bad spot for him. But, whatever. I'm sure the Mets can get just about as much out of Redding and Garcia as they would have from Figueroa.

HahnSolo Apr 23 2009 08:03 AM

If that's the case, then me calling Mrs. Fig a "couple of scoops of crazy" may have been the tipping point.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 23 2009 08:04 AM

I think he could probably see Garcia's ascenion as writing on the wall and felt especially like a commodity. That's life.

Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 08:17 AM

="HahnSolo":16lzksfs]If that's the case, then me calling Mrs. Fig a "couple of scoops of crazy" may have been the tipping point.[/quote:16lzksfs] This season may be on your head. bmfc1 Apr 23 2009 08:24 AM So the Mets lose Nelson Figueroa, a AAAA pitcher, but someone that can start and relieve (and would be a better choice than Brian Lawrence, Dave Williams, Brandon Knight, and Aaron Sele in a desperate September start) AND Darren O'Day, who looked OK, not great, but is still unknown, in exchange for Mike Pelfrey being able to start this weekend (by not DL'ing him) AND Casey Fossum. Well done Omar! It only took until late April for you to make an in-season screw up. It usually takes until the trade deadline. soupcan Apr 23 2009 08:34 AM ="bmfc1":2lnomvpv]So the Mets lose Nelson Figueroa, a AAAA pitcher, but someone that can start and relieve (and would be a better choice than Brian Lawrence, Dave Williams, Brandon Knight, and Aaron Sele in a desperate September start) AND Darren O'Day, who looked OK, not great, but is still unknown, in exchange for Mike Pelfrey being able to start this weekend (by not DL'ing him) AND Casey Fossum. Well done Omar! It only took until late April for you to make an in-season screw up. It usually takes until the trade deadline.[/quote:2lnomvpv] What would you have done - DL-ed Big Pelf? Can we wait and see how Pelf throws this weekend before we declare Omar an idiot for losing two interchangeable parts? Benjamin Grimm Apr 23 2009 08:35 AM Yeah, that was a major mess-up, and one we saw coming. It would have been far smarter to avoid all that roster-juggling (and player losing) by just giving Brian Stokes that one start. bmfc1 Apr 23 2009 08:42 AM "What would you have done - DL-ed Big Pelf?" I concur with BG--I would have started Stokes. The Mets were undoubtedly concerned about being short in the BP if they did that but Monday was a day off. Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 08:45 AM I would have also, but this is in part a bi-product of the larger burdens on pens these days. Teams tend to avoid throwing a reliever --- even one with plenty of starting experience --- into the rotation because they need every reliever they've got to make it through the week. A start for Parnell was another viable alternative. Hawkeye57 Apr 23 2009 09:29 AM What's next for Omar? Two weeks into the season and he loses two depth players. Guess Figgy doesn't want to play with the AAA equivalent of the Nats. I also agree, I would probably have chosen Stokes to start the game, especially with the day off in there, and take the chance of losing him for 2-3 games later on. Would not have chosen Parnell, when he started games in the system he was less than stellar. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 23 2009 09:45 AM Player mistakes-- Murphy's Iron Glove act, Ollie being Ollie-- are ugly but forgivable. These kind of player-mismanagement follies, coupled with the fix-yesterday's-problem-to-win-today roster-management outlook... a lot less so. Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 09:52 AM I don't like losing these guys, but he's getting perhaps more shit than he deserves here. He's made some good waiver claims also. And replacing my beloved Kielty with Wily Mo Peña was perfect, and could help the Mets offensively and defensively this year. John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 23 2009 09:53 AM I don't wanna sound like a complete mgt tool but am I the only one who was shocked Figueroa gave us as much as he did? He started with some fairy dust the last time around too but in time he'd earned his way back to AAA and I'm absolutely convinced that would have been his fate with or without Fossum (who it turns out we needed this week in some good planning that's not being recognized by you critics). Figgy's just not that special a guy and if he wants to pitch for some other org's AAA team, let him. I'm sorrier to see O'Day go but then again he didn't look like he'd be capable of anything more taxing than mop-up work. I guess I should be happy for him that he keeps a big league job somewhere. Benjamin Grimm Apr 23 2009 09:58 AM I'm not saying that the guys that were lost had much significant value. But it doesn't seem too wise to lose two guys from your organization just for one fill-in start in April. You never know who you might need in the months to come. In July, if we're at a point where we're getting four-inning starts from Brandon Knight and too-frequent relief appearances from an ineffective Carlos Muniz, we might be wishing we had Figueroa and O'Day. Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 10:00 AM ... though with no firm reason to believe that they'd be giving anything more. Benjamin Grimm Apr 23 2009 10:59 AM True enough. All I'm saying is that more options are better than fewer options. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 23 2009 11:18 AM ="Edgy DC":3jzj23t1]I don't like losing these guys, but he's getting perhaps more shit than he deserves here. He's made some good waiver claims also. And replacing my beloved Kielty with Wily Mo Pe�a was perfect, and could help the Mets offensively and defensively this year.[/quote:3jzj23t1] Fair point-- but Wily Mo has averaged 1 strikeout every 3 PAs for his career and, although in possession of off-the-charts tools, is somewhat of a shitpile as an actual baseball player. (Although his closest B-R.com comparable IS Art Shamsky, so there's something.)

[ashie62]

Give him a holster! Ranger O'Day at your service*

[Frayed Knot]

- So O'Day arrives in Toronto with the Rangers-Jays game already in progress.
- The Rangers tie it up in the 9th, getting 3 off BJ Ryan, so they go to extras.
- O'Day gets called on with 2-on in the 11th and, while wearing someone else's jersey [Gabbard - 30] because they didn't have one made up for him yet, he serves up a walk-off gapper to Kevin Millar.



It's never too late to make a first impression.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Give the loss to Gabbard.

[smg58]

I'm surprised Figueroa cleared waivers as well. There have to be teams out there with worse guys in the rotation than him. But if he didn't clear waivers, I don't see how he gets a major-league contract from somebody should he opt for free agency.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Today's Snooze says Figgy eill refuse his Buff assignemnt.

Adios.

Freddy Garcia in the meantime made his debut for Buff last night: 6 IP, 3 ER and a loss. Not great but not awful either I guess.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Half of me thinks he refused the assignment because his wife followed the link back here, read our (more or less gentle) comments, and went apeshit and told him they were through with the Mets.

[Benjamin Grimm]

29 teams declined to claim him on waivers, so he refuses his assignment to Buffalo? I guess he'd rather be on a AAA team in some other organization.

Figgy must be really pissed at the Mets. They're, at least nominally, a contending team that has several weaknesses in their starting rotation. It doesn't seem like a bad spot for him.

But, whatever. I'm sure the Mets can get just about as much out of Redding and Garcia as they would have from Figueroa.

[HahnSolo]

If that's the case, then me calling Mrs. Fig a "couple of scoops of crazy" may have been the tipping point.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I think he could probably see Garcia's ascenion as writing on the wall and felt especially like a commodity. That's life.

[Guest Edgy DC]

="HahnSolo":16lzksfs]If that's the case, then me calling Mrs. Fig a "couple of scoops of crazy" may have been the tipping point.[/quote:16lzksfs] This season may be on your head.

bmfc1 Apr 23 2009 08:24 AM

So the Mets lose Nelson Figueroa, a AAAA pitcher, but someone that can start and relieve (and would be a better choice than Brian Lawrence, Dave Williams, Brandon Knight, and Aaron Sele in a desperate September start) AND Darren O'Day, who looked OK, not great, but is still unknown, in exchange for Mike Pelfrey being able to start this weekend (by not DL'ing him) AND Casey Fossum. Well done Omar! It only took until late April for you to make an in-season screw up. It usually takes until the trade deadline.

soupcan Apr 23 2009 08:34 AM

="bmfc1":2lnomvpv]So the Mets lose Nelson Figueroa, a AAAA pitcher, but someone that can start and relieve (and would be a better choice than Brian Lawrence, Dave Williams, Brandon Knight, and Aaron Sele in a desperate September start) AND Darren O'Day, who looked OK, not great, but is still unknown, in exchange for Mike Pelfrey being able to start this weekend (by not DL'ing him) AND Casey Fossum. Well done Omar! It only took until late April for you to make an in-season screw up. It usually takes until the trade deadline.[/quote:2lnomvpv] What would you have done - DL-ed Big Pelf? Can we wait and see how Pelf throws this weekend before we declare Omar an idiot for losing two interchangeable parts? Benjamin Grimm Apr 23 2009 08:35 AM Yeah, that was a major mess-up, and one we saw coming. It would have been far smarter to avoid all that roster-juggling (and player losing) by just giving Brian Stokes that one start. bmfc1 Apr 23 2009 08:42 AM "What would you have done - DL-ed Big Pelf?" I concur with BG--I would have started Stokes. The Mets were undoubtedly concerned about being short in the BP if they did that but Monday was a day off. Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 08:45 AM I would have also, but this is in part a bi-product of the larger burdens on pens these days. Teams tend to avoid throwing a reliever --- even one with plenty of starting experience --- into the rotation because they need every reliever they've got to make it through the week. A start for Parnell was another viable alternative. Hawkeye57 Apr 23 2009 09:29 AM What's next for Omar? Two weeks into the season and he loses two depth players. Guess Figgy doesn't want to play with the AAA equivalent of the Nats. I also agree, I would probably have chosen Stokes to start the game, especially with the day off in there, and take the chance of losing him for 2-3 games later on. Would not have chosen Parnell, when he started games in the system he was less than stellar. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 23 2009 09:45 AM Player mistakes-- Murphy's Iron Glove act, Ollie being Ollie-- are ugly but forgivable. These kind of player-mismanagement follies, coupled with the fix-yesterday's-problem-to-win-today roster-management outlook... a lot less so. Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 09:52 AM I don't like losing these guys, but he's getting perhaps more shit than he deserves here. He's made some good waiver claims also. And replacing my beloved Kielty with Wily Mo Peña was perfect, and could help the Mets offensively and defensively this year. John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 23 2009 09:53 AM I don't wanna sound like a complete mgt tool but am I the only one who was shocked Figueroa gave us as much as he did? He started with some fairy dust the last time around too but in time he'd earned his way back to AAA and I'm absolutely convinced that would have been his fate with or without Fossum (who it turns out we needed this week in some good planning that's not being recognized by you critics). Figgy's just not that special a guy and if he wants to pitch for some other org's AAA team, let him. I'm sorrier to see O'Day go but then again he didn't look like he'd be capable of anything more taxing than mop-up work. I guess I should be happy for him that he keeps a big league job somewhere. Benjamin Grimm Apr 23 2009 09:58 AM I'm not saying that the guys that were lost had much significant value. But it doesn't seem too wise to lose two guys from your organization just for one fill-in start in April. You never know who you might need in the months to come. In July, if we're at a point where we're getting four-inning starts from Brandon Knight and too-frequent relief appearances from an ineffective Carlos Muniz, we might be wishing we had Figueroa and O'Day. Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 10:00 AM ... though with no firm reason to believe that they'd be giving anything more. Benjamin Grimm Apr 23 2009 10:59 AM True enough. All I'm saying is that more options are better than fewer options. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 23 2009 11:18 AM ="Edgy DC":3jzj23t1]I don't like losing these guys, but he's getting perhaps more shit than he deserves here. He's made some good waiver claims also. And replacing my beloved Kielty with Wily Mo Pe�a was perfect, and could help the Mets offensively and defensively this year.[/quote:3jzj23t1] Fair point-- but Wily Mo has averaged 1 strikeout every 3 PAs for his career and, although in possession of off-the-charts tools, is somewhat of a shitpile as an actual baseball player. (Although his closest B-R.com comparable IS Art Shamsky, so there's something.)

[bmfc1]

So the Mets lose Nelson Figueroa, a AAAA pitcher, but someone that can start and relieve (and would be a better choice than Brian Lawrence, Dave Williams, Brandon Knight, and Aaron Sele in a desperate September start) AND Darren O'Day, who looked OK, not great, but is still unknown, in exchange for Mike Pelfrey being able to start this weekend (by not DL'ing him) AND Casey Fossum.

Well done Omar! It only took until late April for you to make an in-season screw up. It usually takes until the trade deadline.

[soupcan]

="bmfc1":2lnomvpv]So the Mets lose Nelson Figueroa, a AAAA pitcher, but someone that can start and relieve (and would be a better choice than Brian Lawrence, Dave Williams, Brandon Knight, and Aaron Sele in a desperate September start) AND Darren O'Day, who looked OK, not great, but is still unknown, in exchange for Mike Pelfrey being able to start this weekend (by not DL'ing him) AND Casey Fossum. Well done Omar! It only took until late April for you to make an in-season screw up. It usually takes until the trade deadline.[/quote:2lnomvpv] What would you have done - DL-ed Big Pelf? Can we wait and see how Pelf throws this weekend before we declare Omar an idiot for losing two interchangeable parts?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 23 2009 08:35 AM

Yeah, that was a major mess-up, and one we saw coming. It would have been far smarter to avoid all that roster-juggling (and player losing) by just giving Brian Stokes that one start.

bmfc1 Apr 23 2009 08:42 AM

"What would you have done - DL-ed Big Pelf?" I concur with BG--I would have started Stokes. The Mets were undoubtedly concerned about being short in the BP if they did that but Monday was a day off.

Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 08:45 AM

I would have also, but this is in part a bi-product of the larger burdens on pens these days. Teams tend to avoid throwing a reliever --- even one with plenty of starting experience --- into the rotation because they need every reliever they've got to make it through the week. A start for Parnell was another viable alternative.

Hawkeye57 Apr 23 2009 09:29 AM

What's next for Omar? Two weeks into the season and he loses two depth players. Guess Figgy doesn't want to play with the AAA equivalent of the Nats. I also agree, I would probably have chosen Stokes to start the game, especially with the day off in there, and take the chance of losing him for 2-3 games later on. Would not have chosen Parnell, when he started games in the system he was less than stellar.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 23 2009 09:45 AM

Player mistakes-- Murphy's Iron Glove act, Ollie being Ollie-- are ugly but forgivable. These kind of player-mismanagement follies, coupled with the fix-yesterday's-problem-to-win-today roster-management outlook... a lot less so.

Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 09:52 AM

I don't like losing these guys, but he's getting perhaps more shit than he deserves here. He's made some good waiver claims also. And replacing my beloved Kielty with Wily Mo Peña was perfect, and could help the Mets offensively and defensively this year.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 23 2009 09:53 AM

I don't wanna sound like a complete mgt tool but am I the only one who was shocked Figueroa gave us as much as he did? He started with some fairy dust the last time around too but in time he'd earned his way back to AAA and I'm absolutely convinced that would have been his fate with or without Fossum (who it turns out we needed this week in some good planning that's not being recognized by you critics). Figgy's just not that special a guy and if he wants to pitch for some other org's AAA team, let him. I'm sorrier to see O'Day go but then again he didn't look like he'd be capable of anything more taxing than mop-up work. I guess I should be happy for him that he keeps a big league job somewhere.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 23 2009 09:58 AM

I'm not saying that the guys that were lost had much significant value. But it doesn't seem too wise to lose two guys from your organization just for one fill-in start in April. You never know who you might need in the months to come. In July, if we're at a point where we're getting four-inning starts from Brandon Knight and too-frequent relief appearances from an ineffective Carlos Muniz, we might be wishing we had Figueroa and O'Day.

Edgy DC Apr 23 2009 10:00 AM

... though with no firm reason to believe that they'd be giving anything more.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 23 2009 10:59 AM

True enough. All I'm saying is that more options are better than fewer options.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 23 2009 11:18 AM

="Edgy DC":3jzj23t1]I don't like losing these guys, but he's getting perhaps more shit than he deserves here. He's made some good waiver claims also. And replacing my beloved Kielty with Wily Mo Pe�a was perfect, and could help the Mets offensively and defensively this year.[/quote:3jzj23t1] Fair point-- but Wily Mo has averaged 1 strikeout every 3 PAs for his career and, although in possession of off-the-charts tools, is somewhat of a shitpile as an actual baseball player. (Although his closest B-R.com comparable IS Art Shamsky, so there's something.)

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yeah, that was a major mess-up, and one we saw coming.

It would have been far smarter to avoid all that roster-juggling (and player losing) by just giving Brian Stokes that one start.

[bmfc1]

"What would you have done - DL-ed Big Pelf?"

I concur with BG--I would have started Stokes. The Mets were undoubtedly concerned about being short in the BP if they did that but Monday was a day off.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I would have also, but this is in part a bi-product of the larger burdens on pens these days. Teams tend to avoid throwing a reliever --- even one with plenty of starting experience --- into the rotation because they need every reliever they've got to make it through the week.

A start for Parnell was another viable alternative.

[Guest Hawkeye57]

What's next for Omar? Two weeks into the season and he loses two depth players.

Guess Figgy doesn't want to play with the AAA equivalent of the Nats.

I also agree, I would probably have chosen Stokes to start the game, especially with the day off in there, and take the chance of losing him for 2-3 games later on. Would not have chosen Parnell, when he started games in the system he was less than stellar.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Player mistakes-- Murphy's Iron Glove act, Ollie being Ollie-- are ugly but forgivable.

These kind of player-mismanagement follies, coupled with the fix-yesterday's-problem-to-win-today roster-management outlook... a lot less so.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't like losing these guys, but he's getting perhaps more shit than he deserves here. He's made some good waiver claims also. And replacing my beloved Kielty with Wily Mo Peña was perfect, and could help the Mets offensively and defensively this year.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I don't wanna sound like a complete mgt tool but am I the only one who was shocked Figueroa gave us as much as he did?

He started with some fairy dust the last time around too but in time he'd earned his way back to AAA and I'm absolutely convinced that would have been his fate with or without Fossum (who it turns out we needed this week in some good planning that's not being recognized by you critics). Figgy's just not that special a guy and if he wants to pitch for some other org's AAA team, let him.

I'm sorrier to see O'Day go but then again he didn't look like he'd be capable of anything more taxing than mop-up work. I guess I should be happy for him that he keeps a big league job somewhere.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm not saying that the guys that were lost had much significant value. But it doesn't seem too wise to lose two guys from your organization just for one fill-in start in April.

You never know who you might need in the months to come. In July, if we're at a point where we're getting four-inning starts from Brandon Knight and too-frequent relief appearances from an ineffective Carlos Muniz, we might be wishing we had Figueroa and O'Day.

[Guest Edgy DC]

... though with no firm reason to believe that they'd be giving anything more.

[Benjamin Grimm]

True enough. All I'm saying is that more options are better than fewer options.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="Edgy DC":3jzj23t1]I don't like losing these guys, but he's getting perhaps more shit than he deserves here. He's made some good waiver claims also. And replacing my beloved Kielty with Wily Mo Pe�a was perfect, and could help the Mets offensively and defensively this year.[/quote:3jzj23t1] Fair point-- but Wily Mo has averaged 1 strikeout every 3 PAs for his career and, although in possession of off-the-charts tools, is somewhat of a shitpile as an actual baseball player. (Although his closest B-R.com comparable IS Art Shamsky, so there's something.)