Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Times tries very hard to hit one off a tee, but news is news.]March 12, 2009Stadium Is Citi Field, but the Subway Stop Has Other IdeasBy WILLIAM NEUMANCitigroup is teetering, with a stock price lower than Johan Santana�s earned run average and a brand synonymous with �bank bailout.� But its name will still grace the Mets� new ballpark, Citi Field, when the season starts next month.The same cannot be said of the subway station at the ballpark�s doorstep.Officials at the Metropolitan Transportation Authority had once hoped that a bit of Citigroup�s $400 million endorsement pact with the Mets might trickle down their way, through a naming rights deal of their own for the station.But those hopes evaporated with the bank�s near-collapse and the Mets� refusal to share the wealth.So on Tuesday, transit officials informed the Mets that when the subway station (currently named after the team�s former home, the now-demolished Shea Stadium) was rechristened, it would not actually use the name of the new ballpark.Instead, the station, on the No. 7 line, will be called simply Mets/Willets Point. New signs will go up soon replacing the old signs, which say Willets Point/Shea Stadium. The nearby Long Island Rail Road station will be renamed in the same way.�We�re willing, as we have said, to entertain corporate names on stations, but only for a fee,� said Jeremy Soffin, a spokesman for the Metropolitan Transportation Authority.The authority, struggling to close a $1.2 billion budget gap, plans to raise fares and cut service.The Mets, in contrast, will get $20 million a year from Citigroup for 20 years for the stadium deal.That was the context when transit officials met with the Mets over the last few weeks and, according to Mr. Soffin, raised the subject of a naming fee for the station at Citi Field.The Mets said no.Even if the Mets had been willing to make a deal, it would likely have defrayed only a portion of the $40 million in taxpayer money the authority has agreed to spend on renovations to the subway and commuter rail stations in conjunction with the building of Citi Field.Mr. Soffin said $18 million had been spent so far, on refurbishing the platforms, painting the stations, installing new lights and improving wheelchair access.When it was pointed out that the Mets would still get their name on the renovated stations free, Mr. Soffin said that the authority had to give its riders enough information to get to where they want to go.Mr. Soffin said that the authority never gave the Mets a price for the naming and that the talks did not get past the informal stage.He said that the discussions took place with the Mets rather than Citigroup because the authority dealt regularly with the Mets on the station improvements. Other officials have said that once Citigroup began receiving billions of dollars in federal aid it became clear that any money for the station name would have to come from the Mets.Mr. Soffin said that the decision to keep Citigroup�s name off the station had nothing to do with fears over whether the troubled bank would survive.But fans � who have joked about calling the new stadium Taxpayer Field or Debits Field� may think the authority was wise to guard against the future expense of changing signs in the station if the bank goes bust.David Newman, the Mets vice president of marketing, declined to discuss the team�s talks with the authority.Across town, the Yankees will also open a new stadium, but they are keeping the old name. Mr. Soffin said that the names of the 161st Street/Yankee Stadium stations on the B, D and No. 4 lines would not change.A new Metro-North Railroad station at Yankee Stadium, built with $52 million in authority money and $39 million from the city, will have a slightly different name. It will be called Yankees/E. 153rd Street.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I like the Mets/Willets Point name.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Yup. Reminds me that to take the train to a White Sox game you get off at Sox/35th
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I've read the article twice now and am trying to figure out if there is any acrimony between the Mets and the MTA on this , because if there was any on the part of the MTA I'm thinking that if they wanted to they could have excluded Mets from the name.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 "Across town, the Yankees will also open a new stadium, but they are keeping the old name. Mr. Soffin said that the names of the 161st Street/Yankee Stadium stations on the B, D and No. 4 lines would not change. A new Metro-North Railroad station at Yankee Stadium, built with $52 million in authority money and $39 million from the city, will have a slightly different name. It will be called Yankees/E. 153rd Street."Since the Yankees are getting the exact same thing, why is this not a story about both teams?The Mets are asked to "spread the wealth," yet the Yankees, by far the richest team in baseball and possibly in all of sports, are not?
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 To put "Citi Field" on the subway signs, the MTA wanted some of the money that was being paid for the name of the stadium. Hence asking the Mets for it. Makes perfect sense to me.The MFYs didn't sell naming rights to their park, hence the MTA can't ask for money. And they aren't changing the signs, either, because the name of the stadium is the same.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I can't imagine why the Mets would pay money to put Citi's name on the sign, when they can get their own name on the sign for free.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Well, exactly. And that's what the article said.Ideally, the MTA would be getting money from Citibank to name the station "Citi Field." But as we all know, Citibank has no money to give.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Also, the Metro North Station (Yankees/153) that the MFYs are getting is new, so needen't be re-named, just named.But yeah, the idea of fastening the bailout angle onto this story makes it unnecessarily unweildy.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 All purpose lede:]Something occurred and it reflects poorly on the Mets and everything they do, while the Yankees are all-around champions.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 ="G-Fafif"]All purpose lede:]Something occurred and it reflects poorly on the Mets and everything they do, while the Yankees are all-around champions.Oh man, he channeled his inner-Klapisch! Throw Jeter in there and Verducci will actually drool!
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 "Something A-Rodoccurred and it reflects A-Rodpoorly on the Mets and everything A-Rodthey do, while the Yankees are all-around championsA-RodA-RodA-RodA-Rod."/Perpetual Lede Fixed
duan Old-Timey Member Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 that's a really really really bad job.
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