This is gonna get good!

[Guest Kong76]

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/16760/yankees_book_club_should_skip_torres_tell-all

[Frayed Knot]

Between this and the Kirk Ramdowski book due out soon there's gonna be a lot of dirty laundry being hung out in the near future.

Plus now we know why Jay McGwire is having trouble finding a publisher. Revealing brother Mark to be a 'roids taker doesn't even make the cut these days in a ranking of gossipy tell-alls.

[DocTee]

A-Fraud.

Classick!

[metirish]

Another Rodriguez controversy and Saint Joe not acting very saintly.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Oh boy! This is gonna be great!

[MFS62]

The highlights from his time as manager of the Mets wouldn't have filled out a newspaper photo caption.

Later

[Guest themetfairy]

The Dugout's take on this[/url:1126f7pw].

[Theoldmole]

I always love to see the Yankees trashed, but I'm surprised. Torre never seemed like the kiss and tell type.

[Guest Kong76]

477 pages is a lot of stuff and I'm sure most of it isn't muck. I don't think
Verducci would go there nor Torre ... but I can't wait to see the back pages
of the tabloids tomorrow after one of the slower Sundays of the sports year.

[Frayed Knot]

Ramdowski, btw, claims in his forthcoming book that Dykstra was one of the first players to use him as a steroid supplier (big shock right?) and that he once peed for Gooden so he'd pass a drug test.

[Willets Point]

2 questions:

1. The Yankees have a bookclub?
2. Yankees fans can read?

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

You guys don't really think Verducci is gonna write something bad about his beloved Yankees, do you?

He might rough up Arod little since he's not a True Yankee. But I don't think there will be any real dirt.

[metirish]

Torre already doing damage limitation , the Snooze says he called Cashman from Hawaii to smooth things over.

here is the book btw

[Benjamin Grimm]

I can't even bring myself to skim over the details.

Yankee soap opera gossip? I think I'll pass.

[Frayed Knot]

Shit hitting fan: Day 1

"Sources close to Alex" are saying this is all a bunch of nonsense from a bitter man trying to sell books. None of that is directly from A-Fraud himself but it oughta be fun the first time he gets a mike stuck in his face.

Co-author Verducci is quick to claim via SI.com that this book is not a rip-job and that the handful of lines leaked via the papers need to be taken in context.
At least to an extent he's right. The headline-making lines always consist of the most salacious stuff quick readers of the first copies can find. Joe, for instance, isn't the one who calls him A-Fraud, only pointing out that some of the players did so as an example of his trouble fitting in. Might be fun though to see if either author takes credit for the 'Single White Female' line.

Cashman says Joe phoned him after the first stories trying to defuse any potential hard feelings.

The book is apparently not written in the first person, although Joe would be best not to try and hide behind that if/when the fur starts flying. His name is still on the book "and Tom Verducci" so it should be assumed that everything in it had his approval. It's not a Verducci-penned book about the MFYs in the Torre years, it's a Joe Torre book and he's going to have to take the heat for it.

And several writers are taking, "Why Joe, why?" approach, thinking that this will ruin his NYY legacy no matter how he intended it to come out.

[metirish]

David Lennon

] The Met Years? In the wake of this media maelstrom over "The Yankee Years," the combustible new book from Joe Torre and Tom Verducci, don't hold your breath waiting for a similiar tome from axed Mets manager Willie Randolph. Unlike the Yankees, who apparently do not have gag clauses in the contracts for managers, the Mets were a little more careful in that regard. Randolph was working on a book with Daily News writer Wayne Coffey, but its status seems unclear. General manager Omar Minaya did suggest, however, that Randolph had to choose his words carefully after the firing last June, according to a story written by Coffey on that hotel room meeting. "I stood up and shook his hand, told him I wished him and the team well," Randolph recalled to Coffey. "Then he handed me an envelope, a little parting gift, and told me to make sure I reviewed it with my agent, Ron Shapiro. "It was a copy of my Met contract that basically says I better not say anything detrimental about the team, or I might jeopardize the rest of the money I have coming to me."

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

That makes sense because he's still on the payroll. Torre's not.

[Frayed Knot]

I have more interest in Torre's than I would in one from Willie.

But mainly I'm just waiting for Valentine's.

[metirish]

="metsguyinmichigan"]That makes sense because he's still on the payroll. Torre's not.

I thought that too but then Newsday has this...

] The Yankees are considering including a "non-disparagement clause" in future player and managerial contracts in order to prevent any more tell-all books such as "The Yankee Years," co-written by Joe Torre and Tom Verducci. Speaking on the condition of anonymity, a Yankee official said yesterday that some members of the front office staff already are required to sign a confidentiality agreement in order to protect "proprietary knowledge of our business model." The proposed clause is intended to ensure that future books about the Yankees are "positive in tone," and "do not breach the sanctity of our clubhouse." The Yankees are said to feel betrayed by Torre's book, which has been interpreted as critical of some players, most notably Alex Rodriguez, and inaccurate in its recounting of the October 2007 meeting in Tampa at which Torre and the club agreed to part ways after four world championships and 12 consecutive playoff appearances. Confidentiality agreements, some with meticulously spelled out rules and stipulated monetary penalties for their violation, are standard equipment in most contracts between celebrities and their hired staffs, as well as between corporations and their CEOs. The Mets are believed to have included similar clauses in their contracts with former manager Willie Randolph and former pitching coach Rick Peterson. Up to now, the Yankees never have included them in the contract of a player or manager. "Up to now, we have always operated our employer-employee relationships on a basis of trust," the official said. "But we never expected what we got from Joe. We may have to get a little tougher on this issue."

[G-Fafif]

="TheOldMole":2d6gz115]Torre never seemed like the kiss and tell type.[/quote:2d6gz115] Who exactly would want to kiss Torre?

Frayed Knot Jan 29 2009 06:01 PM

]The proposed clause is intended to ensure that future books about the Yankees are "positive in tone," and "do not breach the sanctity of our clubhouse." It's modeled after the same plan the CIA uses.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 29 2009 06:47 PM

I dunno. At some point, Torre to me became one of the guys I tolerated and even grudgingly admired if only for his ability to bring those bastards into 1st place year after year, despite what reprehensible assholes they hired and the relentless bullshit marketing that has made everything Yankee so very disgusting. I mean, if it was easy to win with the best team, it would happen more often. I predict another season of Girardi will teach the fans bitching about betrayal to change their tune in a hurry.

MFS62 Jan 29 2009 06:53 PM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":wjni94jm]I dunno. At some point, Torre to me became one of the guys I tolerated and even grudgingly admired if only for his ability to bring those bastards into 1st place year after year, despite what reprehensible assholes they hired and the relentless bullshit marketing that has made everything Yankee so very disgusting. [/quote:wjni94jm] Don't be wishy-washy. Tell us how you really feel about them. Later Willets Point Jan 29 2009 08:19 PM Crying like a Yankee pitcher. Frayed Knot Jan 29 2009 08:24 PM "Serial tough man Roger Clemens? Uncontrollable sobbing in the clubhouse during a game he was pitching in the World Series! This after his got all macho and threw a shard of bat in the direction of nemesis Mike Piazza." Good thing steroids haven't been linked to wild mood swings. Oh wait! DocTee Jan 29 2009 08:34 PM Funny stuff. The line about Kei Igawa's underwhelming bp session ("I hope he's hurt or hungover..") is an instant classic. MFS62 Jan 30 2009 11:12 AM ="DocTee":3amcqdu9]Funny stuff. The line about Kei Igawa's underwhelming bp session ("I hope he's hurt or hungover..") is an instant classic.[/quote:3amcqdu9] If that was what he said after seeing him in batting practice, I wonder what he said when he saw him in a game. Later

[Frayed Knot]

]The proposed clause is intended to ensure that future books about the Yankees are "positive in tone," and "do not breach the sanctity of our clubhouse."

It's modeled after the same plan the CIA uses.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I dunno. At some point, Torre to me became one of the guys I tolerated and even grudgingly admired if only for his ability to bring those bastards into 1st place year after year, despite what reprehensible assholes they hired and the relentless bullshit marketing that has made everything Yankee so very disgusting.

I mean, if it was easy to win with the best team, it would happen more often. I predict another season of Girardi will teach the fans bitching about betrayal to change their tune in a hurry.

[MFS62]

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":wjni94jm]I dunno. At some point, Torre to me became one of the guys I tolerated and even grudgingly admired if only for his ability to bring those bastards into 1st place year after year, despite what reprehensible assholes they hired and the relentless bullshit marketing that has made everything Yankee so very disgusting. [/quote:wjni94jm] Don't be wishy-washy. Tell us how you really feel about them. Later

Willets Point Jan 29 2009 08:19 PM

Crying like a Yankee pitcher.

Frayed Knot Jan 29 2009 08:24 PM

"Serial tough man Roger Clemens? Uncontrollable sobbing in the clubhouse during a game he was pitching in the World Series! This after his got all macho and threw a shard of bat in the direction of nemesis Mike Piazza." Good thing steroids haven't been linked to wild mood swings. Oh wait!

DocTee Jan 29 2009 08:34 PM

Funny stuff. The line about Kei Igawa's underwhelming bp session ("I hope he's hurt or hungover..") is an instant classic.

MFS62 Jan 30 2009 11:12 AM

="DocTee":3amcqdu9]Funny stuff. The line about Kei Igawa's underwhelming bp session ("I hope he's hurt or hungover..") is an instant classic.[/quote:3amcqdu9] If that was what he said after seeing him in batting practice, I wonder what he said when he saw him in a game. Later

[Willets Point]

Crying like a Yankee pitcher.

[Frayed Knot]

"Serial tough man Roger Clemens? Uncontrollable sobbing in the clubhouse during a game he was pitching in the World Series! This after his got all macho and threw a shard of bat in the direction of nemesis Mike Piazza."

Good thing steroids haven't been linked to wild mood swings.

Oh wait!

[DocTee]

Funny stuff. The line about Kei Igawa's underwhelming bp session ("I hope he's hurt or hungover..") is an instant classic.

[MFS62]

="DocTee":3amcqdu9]Funny stuff. The line about Kei Igawa's underwhelming bp session ("I hope he's hurt or hungover..") is an instant classic.[/quote:3amcqdu9] If that was what he said after seeing him in batting practice, I wonder what he said when he saw him in a game. Later