IGT - 9/15 Mets at Nationals

[Guest mario25]

Schneider 1st pitch swinging down by 6

[Frayed Knot]

- the problem with leaving in Rincon is that he's never been anything other than a lefty specialist his whole career

- the problem with walking Dukes is that you'd be loading the bases and pushing a 2nd run into scoring position where a cheapie single can do almost as much damage as the HR did



This game is on the hitters who aren't hitting and on the pitchers who are continually * almost but not quite * getting out of the inning.
It's not on Jerry.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Gack. When I left the school board meeting tonight it was only 2-1.

They kill me. Absolutely kill me.

[Guest mario25]

A big comeback would make us all forget the first 7 innings

[metirish]

Keith and Ron killing Mock for throwing off-speed stuff with a six run lead , fine, but I never hear them critical of met pitching in similar situations.

[HahnSolo]

bmfc1 wrote: ="Elster88"]It's not Jerry's fault. And it wasn't Willie's fault last year. 1 hit today. No bullpen any day. What do you want him to do? The 1 hit isn't his fault and last inning probably won't effect the outcome but I want Jerry to leave a reliever in that got 2 outs in a row to start an inning.

Agreed. We search to get outs from somebody, then get them from Rincon and he immediately gets yanked.

[TransMonk]

Keith: "Garrett Mock earned every bit of that earned run."

Classic.

[Elster88]

HahnSolo wrote: ="bmfc1"] ="Elster88"]It's not Jerry's fault. And it wasn't Willie's fault last year. 1 hit today. No bullpen any day. What do you want him to do? The 1 hit isn't his fault and last inning probably won't effect the outcome but I want Jerry to leave a reliever in that got 2 outs in a row to start an inning. Agreed. We search to get outs from somebody, then get them from Rincon and he immediately gets yanked.

If Rincon had given up a hit to a righty you would've yelled at him for leaving him in. And that kind of thing has happened before this year too plenty of times.

[HahnSolo]

Don't tease me, Mets.

[TransMonk]

Hey...is this a rally?

Do it David!

[Guest cooby]

TransMonk wrote: Keith: "Garrett Mock earned every bit of that earned run." Classic.

How hard must it be to be Keith and keep your mouth semi-shut? He should be here with us.

[Elster88]

How did Castillo hit a double? I had flipped to the football game for that at-bat. Did an outfielder fall down or something?

[Frayed Knot]

metirish wrote: Keith and Ron killing Mock for throwing off-speed stuff with a six run lead , fine, but I never hear them critical of met pitching in similar situations.

It's not just that he's throwing off-speed stuff, it's that he's doing so w/a 3-2 count in situations where a walk is the best way to get a team behind by a bunch back into the game.

Edited September 15, 2008 by Guest

[HahnSolo]

Elster88 wrote: ="HahnSolo"] ="bmfc1"] Elster88 wrote: It's not Jerry's fault. And it wasn't Willie's fault last year. 1 hit today. No bullpen any day. What do you want him to do? The 1 hit isn't his fault and last inning probably won't effect the outcome but I want Jerry to leave a reliever in that got 2 outs in a row to start an inning. Agreed. We search to get outs from somebody, then get them from Rincon and he immediately gets yanked. If Rincon had given up a hit to a righty you would've yelled at him for leaving him in. And that kind of thing has happened before this year too plenty of times.

One hit, no. Can we give him one righty with 2 outs and nobody on?

[Frayed Knot]

You gotta be fuckin' kidding me!!!

[HahnSolo]

That did't even last long enough to be a tease.

[TransMonk]

wow.

this sucks.

[Gwreck]

Wow. Nice job swinging 2-0 there buddy.

[HahnSolo]

Oh, look. KC's "It" (as in it's happening again) has just knocked on the door to get reacquainted.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Rays fans must be feeling it, too. Down 13-1 to Boston.

[Guest mario25]

Down a ton of runs you have to take that pitch

[metirish]

Dickshot's kid is in to pitch.

[Guest themetfairy]

Bobby Parnell for closer!

[Guest mario25]

Anyone who gets 3 outs in an inning should be considered a viable option at this point...Rincon and Parnell just put themselves in the mix....I will ask this Rincon or Feliciano-Schowsus crap???? Parnell or Heilman????

[Guest cooby]

At this point I'd try Leroy Parnell.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Elster88 wrote: It's not Jerry's fault. And it wasn't Willie's fault last year. 1 hit today. No bullpen any day. What do you want him to do?

I believe that Manuel, like WWSB before him, often ovwermanages the lefty/righty matchups and goes through too many pitchers most nights. Still, I have to feel for him when you consider his limited options in the pen.

Most any game I can imagine Manuel and Warthen considering their options in the pen.

Manuel - "Johan's pitched a hell of a game tonight, but he's up to 112 pitches and I really don't want to wear him out too much tonight. The Braves have a pair of lefties due to open the inning. Who should we send in for the 8th?"

Warthen - "Well, you can go with the Show or Feliciano."

Manuel - "Great. Show can't get anyone out and Feliciano never gets the first guy he faces. Might as well put Pedro out there while there is no one in scoring position."

Feliciano give up a bomb to the first batter.

Manuel - "I told you, he never gets the first man he faces. Have Smitty get ready for the righthander."

After surviving the 8th without further damage and having burned Smith and Schoeneweis along with Feliciano in the inning, Jerry considers his options for the 9th

Manuel - "Now what? We're still up a run. All we need is three outs."

Warthen - "Stokes is unavailable after the heavy shelling he took in the 8th last night, but we still have lots of options. Heilman, Sanchez, and Ayala are all rested and ready to pitch the 9th.

Manuel - "Just shoot me now."

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Slip slidin away
Slip slidin away
You know the nearer your destination
The more youre slip slidin away

[stevejrogers]

And Gimpy ends the game for the second night in a row. Good thing he's going to be around for another three years!

Okay, new plan, 13 game winning streak to wrap up the season.

[Guest cooby]

Is it over or is Metfairy being proactive with her POTG?

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Puking. The Nats are close to losing 100 games. This kind of nonsense just can't happen. And I'm talking more about the O than the pen.

As for the pen, if the problem is over use .... then lets see the kids and Rincon more. Hell, we still have three roster spots, who is sitting at home after the AAA season ended?