8/30 - Sat night IGT - 8/30

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

And the worst part is that Pedro going tomorrow, you know we're going to lean on the pen for at least three innings.

[metirish]

Tough to watch but you could see that happening , I don't care much for that strategy.

[Centerfield]

It's getting to the point that these kick to the groin losses are hurting less.

This bullpen is making my groin stronger.

[nymr83]

Fman99 wrote: I think the Rogers strategy sucks ass.

there are times when you do it and times when you don't, it really has to boil down, with nobody out, who you think you can get a groundball (or K, or popup) out of with the infield in.

[Guest AG/DC]

No, I think the need to pitch with a margin for error should always be a factor as well.

[Guest AG/DC]

I actually did this once. Playing Strat-O-Matic with players from the 1986 season, I had a a tie game in the ninth. I had a twin-closer system, using Mark Eichorn against righties and Rob Murphy against lefties. Eichorn yielded a bedeviling .135 / .186 / .165 // .310 line against righties that year, but that didn't stop Rickey Henderson, who, with two out, tripled against young Mark. Coming up were Lenny Dykstra and Don Mattingly, lefties both, good ones, and malevolent matchups for Eichorn, who was quite human against even pedestrian lefties.

I thought about switching to Murphy, but looming behind the lefties was the number four hitter for Tony Goldstone's Milwaukee Marauders.

Tony was weak, exploiting that we didn't have a formal rule keeping you from over-using players with distorted stat lines from limited use. He had Junior Ortiz, who hit .336 that year in 110 at-bats, as his cleanup hitter. Junior actually hit a pretty empty .336, but whatever. It had served Tony right earlier in the game when Ortiz went down with an injury and had to be replaced by Mark Sullivan, a sucker Sunday catcher who wouldn't even have been drafted in our league had he not been fortunate enough to play in a World Series that season. Sully actually hit a little better against righties than against lefties, though still not good, at .235 / .284 / .294 // .578.

I picked up Murphy's card, and put it down, and decided to save him for later innings. This was the time for a the Kenny Rogers solution. Eichorn walked Dykstra, walked Mattingly, and fanned Sully.

Won the thing in inning eleven, I think on a sac fly by Mike Diaz.

I don't expect I'll ever try that again.

[nymr83]

]but that didn't stop Rickey Henderson, who, with two out, tripled against young Mark

two out is not "the kenny rogers situation" with 2 outs you have 3 choices of which hitter you want to face (though i personally wouldnt choose the 3rd one unless it was something like Ortiz-Manny-Drew and i'm walking them to get to Drew) to get only 1 out, no infield in or anything

[Guest AG/DC]

No doubt. "The Kenny Rogers Solution" is a response to a runner on third with different out counts.

We were working wth no out in last week's situtation, and one out here. Still wouldn't have done it. I'm certainly not arguing that not doing it would have meant success, only a better chance at it.