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Cub set up reliever Carlos Marmol replaces teammate Kerry Wood on the AS roster. Marmol is the seventh Cub and fifth reliever to be named to the NL AS squad this year. It seems to me that Johan Santana was the most qualified pitcher to replace Wood, especially since Cole Hamels pitched yesterday and thus, would not be available to play this Tuesday.

I'm wondering if there's some bad blood between Clint Hurdle and the Mets. Reyes was also snubbed this year and is a deserving AS. David Wright's initial snubbing may have been the most egregious of all.


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They beat the pants off his team this weekend, didn't they?


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Probably could have gone without a 7th Cub but I guess they'd just make the argument that he was only replacing a teammate anyway.

The other thing about Marmol is June + July = 16.1 IP, 17 ER, 14 H, 13 BBs, 4 HRs

He's got like the reverse-Heilman splits.


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Hurdle's passing over of Wright wasn't necessarily his fault:

Fans voted Larry in.
Players voted Aramis Ramirez in.

He put Wright on the "Final man" ballot and then gave him the first spot vacated by injury. I don't think he should feel snubbed by Hurdle.

Also, what makes you think Hamels is unavailable to throw an inning? Wouldn't Tuesday be a throw day after pitching on Sunday?


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You know, when Joel Youngblood made the All-Star Team in 1981, he couldn't play because he was hurt. In fact, it was pretty clear that he was out long-term when he was selected. He was replaced, but nobody felt an obligation to do it with Dave Kingman or Mookie Wilson or Hubie Brooks or Neil Allen. 'Blood showed up and tipped his cap and, other than that, my 14-year-old self had to accept that our lone All star bert was stillborn.


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would've thought johan would've been a good pick for replacement... I also think it would've been awesome to put in sabathia or harden


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You know, when Joel Youngblood made the All-Star Team in 1981, he couldn't play because he was hurt. In fact, it was pretty clear that he was out long-term when he was selected. He was replaced, but nobody felt an obligation to do it with Dave Kingman or Mookie Wilson or Hubie Brooks or Neil Allen. 'Blood showed up and tipped his cap and, other than that, my 14-year-old self had to accept that our lone All star bert was stillborn.


You've reminded me of Mazz in '79 at the Kingdome.

Honerun and 2 rbi (bases loaded walk off Guidry if I recall correctly).

Wuz robbed of the MVP.


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You know, when Joel Youngblood made the All-Star Team in 1981, he couldn't play because he was hurt. In fact, it was pretty clear that he was out long-term when he was selected. He was replaced, but nobody felt an obligation to do it with Dave Kingman or Mookie Wilson or Hubie Brooks or Neil Allen. 'Blood showed up and tipped his cap and, other than that, my 14-year-old self had to accept that our lone All star bert was stillborn.


Youngblood batted and popped up foul.


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Foot in mouth. My apologetics. As I read that I saw the popup before me.

Who am I thinking of that was hurt as the lone rep during the Torre era?


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Torre-Bamberger-Howard Era Met All-Star History

1977
John Stearns, inserted to catch ninth

1978
Pat Zachry, does not pitch (isn't injured until later in July)

1979
Lee Mazzilli, pinch-hits in eighth (homers; plays CF, walks with bases loaded in ninth)

John Stearns, DNP (chosen as replacement for injured reserve C Ted Simmons)

1980
John Stearns, inserted to catch in fourth (bats in fifth and grounds out as 14th consecutive N.L. out to start game before N.L. rallies; pinch-hit for by Pete Rose in sixth)

1981
Joel Youngblood, inserted to pinch-hit in second (fouls out)

1982
Stearns, inserted to catch ninth

1983
Orosco, inserted to pitch with two outs in seventh; strikes out Ben Oglivie; pinch-hit for by Johnny Bench


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Stengel Era Met All-Star History

1962 (Game 1)
Ashburn, DNP

1962 (Game 2)
Ashburn, inserted as PH in seventh, singles

1963
Snider, inserted as PH in eighth, strikes out; stays in in LF

1964
Hunt, starts at 2B, bats eighth, goes 1-for-3 (single in third), pinch-hit for by Hank Aaron in ninth (Aaron K's before Callison hits game-winning homer)

1965
Kranepool, DNP


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Westrum Era Met All-Star History

1966
Hunt, inserted at 2B in sixth; grounds out in seventh; sacrifices Tim McCarver to second in tenth to set up winning run

1967
Seaver, inserted to pitch 15th, allows only a walk to Carl Yastrzemski, records save for Don Drysdale


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Gwreck wrote:
Also, what makes you think Hamels is unavailable to throw an inning? Wouldn't Tuesday be a throw day after pitching on Sunday?


Maybe he could. But off the top of my head, I can't recall a pitcher starting on the Sunday before the AS game and then pitching in the AS game two days later.


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Hodges Era Met All-Star History

1968
Grote, starts at C; bats seventh; goes 0-for-2, replaced by Tom Haller in sixth

Seaver, inserted to pitch in seventh; throws two scoreless innings

Koosman, inserted to pitch with two outs in ninth; strikes out Carl Yastrzemski to end game; records save

1969
Jones, starts in LF; bats sixth; goes 2-for-4; scores two runs; replaced by Pete Rose in eighth

Koosman, inserted to pitch in seventh; allows leadoff double to Rico Petrocelli then retires next five; replaced by Larry Dierker with two out in eighth

Seaver, DNP

1970
Seaver, starting pitcher; throws three innings; allows one hit; strikes out four; pinch-hit for in third by Rusty Staub

Harrelson, inserted at SS in seventh; goes 2-for-3 (two singles); scores first N.L. run

1971
Harrelson, starts at SS; goes 0-for-2; replaced by Don Kessinger in sixth

Seaver, DNP


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Berra-Frazier Era Met All-Star History

1972
Mays, starts in CF; bats second; goes 0-for-2; replaced by Cesar Cedeno in sixth

McGraw, inserted in ninth; allows only Joe Rudi double in two scoreless innings; records save

1973
Mays, inserted as PH in eighth for Willie Stargell; strikes out

Seaver, inserted to pitch in eighth; throws scoreless inning; allows only walk to Cookie Rojas; replaced by Jim Brewer

1974
Matlack, inserted to pitch in sixth; throws scoreless inning, allowing single to George Hendrick and walk to Thurman Munson; replaced by Lynn McGlothlen in seventh

Grote, inserted in ninth to catch

1975
Seaver, inserted in sixth to pitch; throws one inning; gives up three-run homer to Carl Yastrzemski; replaced by Jon Matlack

Matlack, inserted in seventh to pitch; throws two scoreless innings; allows hits to Claudell Washington and George Hendrick; pinch-hit for by Al Oliver who starts winning rally with double; records win; awarded co-MVP with Bill Madlock

1976
Kingman, starts in RF; bats seventh; goes 0-for-2 with K; replaced by starting CF George Foster in right when Cesar Cedeno inserted in CF

Seaver, inserted to pitch in fourth; throws two innings; allows home run to Fred Lynn in fourth; allows single to Rusty Staub in fifth but erases him on DP; replaced by John Montefusco in sixth


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High anticipation here for the Frazier era.


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G-Fafif wrote:
Berra Era Met All-Star History
1975
Seaver, inserted in sixth to pitch; throws one inning; gives up three-run homer to Carl Yastrzemski; replaced by Jon Matlack

Matlack, inserted in seventh to pitch; throws two scoreless innings; allows hits to Claudell Washington and George Hendrick; pinch-hit for by Al Oliver who starts winning rally with double; records win


Hey! What are you, slipping or something??!!?? What about Matlack's MVP? What about that? Huh?


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AG/DC wrote:
High anticipation here for the Frazier era.


Frazier era folded into Berra-Frazier era above; Torre era repurposed as Torre-Bamberger-Howard era.


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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
="G-Fafif"]Berra Era Met All-Star History
1975
Seaver, inserted in sixth to pitch; throws one inning; gives up three-run homer to Carl Yastrzemski; replaced by Jon Matlack

Matlack, inserted in seventh to pitch; throws two scoreless innings; allows hits to Claudell Washington and George Hendrick; pinch-hit for by Al Oliver who starts winning rally with double; records win


Hey! What are you, slipping or something??!!?? What about Matlack's MVP? What about that? Huh?


Excellent point, dreadful omission, entry repaired.


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Excellent info here that brings back memories that I can't say for sure I even had.


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