batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Cub set up reliever Carlos Marmol replaces teammate Kerry Wood on the AS roster. Marmol is the seventh Cub and fifth reliever to be named to the NL AS squad this year. It seems to me that Johan Santana was the most qualified pitcher to replace Wood, especially since Cole Hamels pitched yesterday and thus, would not be available to play this Tuesday.I'm wondering if there's some bad blood between Clint Hurdle and the Mets. Reyes was also snubbed this year and is a deserving AS. David Wright's initial snubbing may have been the most egregious of all.
Theoldmole Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 He was passed over for Met mgr at one point, wasn't he?
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 They beat the pants off his team this weekend, didn't they?
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Probably could have gone without a 7th Cub but I guess they'd just make the argument that he was only replacing a teammate anyway.The other thing about Marmol is June + July = 16.1 IP, 17 ER, 14 H, 13 BBs, 4 HRsHe's got like the reverse-Heilman splits.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Hurdle's passing over of Wright wasn't necessarily his fault:Fans voted Larry in.Players voted Aramis Ramirez in.He put Wright on the "Final man" ballot and then gave him the first spot vacated by injury. I don't think he should feel snubbed by Hurdle.Also, what makes you think Hamels is unavailable to throw an inning? Wouldn't Tuesday be a throw day after pitching on Sunday?
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 You know, when Joel Youngblood made the All-Star Team in 1981, he couldn't play because he was hurt. In fact, it was pretty clear that he was out long-term when he was selected. He was replaced, but nobody felt an obligation to do it with Dave Kingman or Mookie Wilson or Hubie Brooks or Neil Allen. 'Blood showed up and tipped his cap and, other than that, my 14-year-old self had to accept that our lone All star bert was stillborn.
Guest attgig Guests Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 would've thought johan would've been a good pick for replacement... I also think it would've been awesome to put in sabathia or harden
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 AG/DC wrote:You know, when Joel Youngblood made the All-Star Team in 1981, he couldn't play because he was hurt. In fact, it was pretty clear that he was out long-term when he was selected. He was replaced, but nobody felt an obligation to do it with Dave Kingman or Mookie Wilson or Hubie Brooks or Neil Allen. 'Blood showed up and tipped his cap and, other than that, my 14-year-old self had to accept that our lone All star bert was stillborn.You've reminded me of Mazz in '79 at the Kingdome.Honerun and 2 rbi (bases loaded walk off Guidry if I recall correctly).Wuz robbed of the MVP.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 AG/DC wrote:You know, when Joel Youngblood made the All-Star Team in 1981, he couldn't play because he was hurt. In fact, it was pretty clear that he was out long-term when he was selected. He was replaced, but nobody felt an obligation to do it with Dave Kingman or Mookie Wilson or Hubie Brooks or Neil Allen. 'Blood showed up and tipped his cap and, other than that, my 14-year-old self had to accept that our lone All star bert was stillborn.Youngblood batted and popped up foul.
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Foot in mouth. My apologetics. As I read that I saw the popup before me.Who am I thinking of that was hurt as the lone rep during the Torre era?
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Stearns, maybe?1978 was the only "Torre" year in which no Met got into the All-Star Game.http://leaptoad.com/mets/allstar.php
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Torre-Bamberger-Howard Era Met All-Star History1977John Stearns, inserted to catch ninth1978Pat Zachry, does not pitch (isn't injured until later in July)1979Lee Mazzilli, pinch-hits in eighth (homers; plays CF, walks with bases loaded in ninth)John Stearns, DNP (chosen as replacement for injured reserve C Ted Simmons)1980John Stearns, inserted to catch in fourth (bats in fifth and grounds out as 14th consecutive N.L. out to start game before N.L. rallies; pinch-hit for by Pete Rose in sixth)1981Joel Youngblood, inserted to pinch-hit in second (fouls out)1982Stearns, inserted to catch ninth1983Orosco, inserted to pitch with two outs in seventh; strikes out Ben Oglivie; pinch-hit for by Johnny Bench
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Valadius wrote:Pat Zachry, 1978.Not allowed to answer that question if you weren't alive at the time.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Stengel Era Met All-Star History1962 (Game 1)Ashburn, DNP1962 (Game 2)Ashburn, inserted as PH in seventh, singles1963Snider, inserted as PH in eighth, strikes out; stays in in LF1964Hunt, starts at 2B, bats eighth, goes 1-for-3 (single in third), pinch-hit for by Hank Aaron in ninth (Aaron K's before Callison hits game-winning homer)1965Kranepool, DNP
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Westrum Era Met All-Star History1966Hunt, inserted at 2B in sixth; grounds out in seventh; sacrifices Tim McCarver to second in tenth to set up winning run1967Seaver, inserted to pitch 15th, allows only a walk to Carl Yastrzemski, records save for Don Drysdale
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Author Posted July 14, 2008 Gwreck wrote:Also, what makes you think Hamels is unavailable to throw an inning? Wouldn't Tuesday be a throw day after pitching on Sunday?Maybe he could. But off the top of my head, I can't recall a pitcher starting on the Sunday before the AS game and then pitching in the AS game two days later.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Hodges Era Met All-Star History1968Grote, starts at C; bats seventh; goes 0-for-2, replaced by Tom Haller in sixthSeaver, inserted to pitch in seventh; throws two scoreless inningsKoosman, inserted to pitch with two outs in ninth; strikes out Carl Yastrzemski to end game; records save1969Jones, starts in LF; bats sixth; goes 2-for-4; scores two runs; replaced by Pete Rose in eighthKoosman, inserted to pitch in seventh; allows leadoff double to Rico Petrocelli then retires next five; replaced by Larry Dierker with two out in eighthSeaver, DNP1970Seaver, starting pitcher; throws three innings; allows one hit; strikes out four; pinch-hit for in third by Rusty StaubHarrelson, inserted at SS in seventh; goes 2-for-3 (two singles); scores first N.L. run1971Harrelson, starts at SS; goes 0-for-2; replaced by Don Kessinger in sixthSeaver, DNP
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Berra-Frazier Era Met All-Star History1972Mays, starts in CF; bats second; goes 0-for-2; replaced by Cesar Cedeno in sixthMcGraw, inserted in ninth; allows only Joe Rudi double in two scoreless innings; records save1973Mays, inserted as PH in eighth for Willie Stargell; strikes outSeaver, inserted to pitch in eighth; throws scoreless inning; allows only walk to Cookie Rojas; replaced by Jim Brewer1974Matlack, inserted to pitch in sixth; throws scoreless inning, allowing single to George Hendrick and walk to Thurman Munson; replaced by Lynn McGlothlen in seventhGrote, inserted in ninth to catch1975Seaver, inserted in sixth to pitch; throws one inning; gives up three-run homer to Carl Yastrzemski; replaced by Jon MatlackMatlack, inserted in seventh to pitch; throws two scoreless innings; allows hits to Claudell Washington and George Hendrick; pinch-hit for by Al Oliver who starts winning rally with double; records win; awarded co-MVP with Bill Madlock1976Kingman, starts in RF; bats seventh; goes 0-for-2 with K; replaced by starting CF George Foster in right when Cesar Cedeno inserted in CFSeaver, inserted to pitch in fourth; throws two innings; allows home run to Fred Lynn in fourth; allows single to Rusty Staub in fifth but erases him on DP; replaced by John Montefusco in sixth
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 High anticipation here for the Frazier era.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Author Posted July 14, 2008 G-Fafif wrote:Berra Era Met All-Star History1975Seaver, inserted in sixth to pitch; throws one inning; gives up three-run homer to Carl Yastrzemski; replaced by Jon MatlackMatlack, inserted in seventh to pitch; throws two scoreless innings; allows hits to Claudell Washington and George Hendrick; pinch-hit for by Al Oliver who starts winning rally with double; records winHey! What are you, slipping or something??!!?? What about Matlack's MVP? What about that? Huh?
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 AG/DC wrote:High anticipation here for the Frazier era.Frazier era folded into Berra-Frazier era above; Torre era repurposed as Torre-Bamberger-Howard era.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 batmagadanleadoff wrote:="G-Fafif"]Berra Era Met All-Star History1975Seaver, inserted in sixth to pitch; throws one inning; gives up three-run homer to Carl Yastrzemski; replaced by Jon MatlackMatlack, inserted in seventh to pitch; throws two scoreless innings; allows hits to Claudell Washington and George Hendrick; pinch-hit for by Al Oliver who starts winning rally with double; records winHey! What are you, slipping or something??!!?? What about Matlack's MVP? What about that? Huh?Excellent point, dreadful omission, entry repaired.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Too lazy to look it up, but it's my recollection that Seaver never started an ASG - or at least never as a Met
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 He started in 1970.http://leaptoad.com/mets/profile.php?PlayerCode=0150
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Excellent info here that brings back memories that I can't say for sure I even had.
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