Guest themetfairy Guests Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Baseball tirade du jour, courtesy of manager Kash Beauchamp of the Wichita Wingnuts -Click Here
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 I bumped this here because (a) it's baseball, and ( Kash was a childhood playmate (once or twice, anyhow) of mine.He was, I think, one of four number-one overall draftees who never tasted big-league beer. But I think he and one other were in number-one overall in the January draft. Steve Chillcott and Brien Taylor were Junios.That sort of fate makes a man fat, bald, and angry. He wasn't like that when I knew him.
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Here it is with audio. He's basically saying, "That call stinks like my shoe! It stinks like my armpit!"Thankfully it didn't stink like his ass, or he might have demonstrated for comparison's sake.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Totally classless. Being able to argue a call without really hurting your team (other than by ejection) is one of the cool things about baseball, in my opinion. I like the scripted dance that manager and ump go through...the in-your face arguing, the tantrums, the ump with the exaggerated "You're outta here!" motion. But some guys just don't know where to draw the line. This clown, the guy in Atlanta who threw the fake hand grenades. Stuff like that makes you wonder if the time has come for a penalty to your team for being an ass (kind of like the technical foul in basketball).
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 You know, I enjoy a good manager-umpire argument, but sometimes it kinda gets old, no? In what other line or work are you allowed to just up and yell at other people like that? It's kind of puerile.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 I agree. A manager should argue for his team, and I can understand that that could sometimes lead to yelling. (Although it really shouldn't.)But grown men shouldn't throw tantrums. I wouldn't tolerate a tantrum from my seven-year-old. From an adult it's really absurd.And the armpit thing was way over the line. He deserves a month's suspension.
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Yet, in the end, I bet it's the best publicity the Wichita Wingnuts ever got.I think it's no coincidence that these things tend to take place in the world of unaffliated baseball. They need the attention and they hire managers who get it for them, even if the teams publicky distance themsleves from their managers' behavior when they do go apeshit.Being so far from the show, living in a trailer, and working with kids the big-league scouts have passed on, it probably doesn't take too much to get under these guys' skin.
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Are you defending his actions or at least excusing them?It does not seem like the kind of thing you would condone.
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 I don't condone it. I'm just trying to look at the forces at work behind that sort of thing.If people advocate for a manager who "adds excitement" and "shows a little life" and "fights for his guys," they shouldn't be surprised when one of their monsters wrecks the lab.In Indy ball, you generally can't afford marquee players who will get you the attention you need, but a manager who gets his team headlines, often with a big-league pedigree, is cheaper.Other things that the affiliated teams tend to avoid but are an asset to indy-league teams: chicks, handicapped guys, and big fat guys.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 And he once posted on the UMDB. That has to count for something.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 I'll have to take another look at his post.He didn't say anything about his shoe or his armpit, did he?
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Seems like a decent guy in his post. Now I feel bad.
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Of course he was decent. He played with me --- even though he was like ten when I was five, and his father was a cardboard god.
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 You played with Kash, the guy having the tantrum, right?And you're right - I confused Jim Beauchamp wtih Ray Sadecki. Sorry.
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Forgive the confusing of my first post. Yes and yes.
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