nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Detroit has 18 runs against texas, its only the 6th inning.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 The sleeping giant woke up.Verlander even had a good game the other day too.It also didn't take Leyland long to have enough of Cabrera's play at 3rd and he's been switched permanently to 1st base while former SS/current 1B Guillen moves to 3rd.
Guest Triple Dee Guests Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Leyland's the type of manager that will never die wondering. My kind of manager.
Guest attgig Guests Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 isn't this granderson's first game back?
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 attgig wrote:isn't this granderson's first game back?Yes it is.
Guest Triple Dee Guests Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 FINALDET (3 TDs, PA)TEX (TD)A bad night for kickers.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted April 23, 2008 Author Posted April 23, 2008 Vintage Maddux on display tonight as he went 7 shutout innings on only 75 pitches without walking a batter. Trevor Hoffman blew it in the 9th allowing a HR to Bengie Molina, they are tied in the 12th
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Truly Vintage Maddux would have stuck around and finished what he started, no? Seventy-five pitches?
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Maddux has been pitching short games (both innings & pitches) for a while now.Trevor Hoffman is looking an awful lot like toast.And it doesn't help that Sandy Eggo can't score so you figure they'll be in a lot of low-scoring, close games where a shut-down closer could be a real asset.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 I think Nymr83 was delving in the fine art of sarcasm , Hoffman sucks ass.
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Not to be a grumpy old man, and I don't want to intefere too much in Bud Black's understanding with Greg Maddux, but it seems like the two main reasons to yank a pitcher are (1) the increased fatigue is causing you to lose velocity, and (2) the increased fatigue is heightening your risk of injury and compromising your future. Maddux has little velocity and his future is now and every win might well be his last, so you might as well secure them.He still might have been vulnerable to (3) the increased fatigue is causing you to lose movement and (4) the increased fatigue is causing you to lose location. But it seems like (1) and (2) are above these in the hierarchy of when to pull a pitcher, and, after only 75 pitches (not quite three innings in Victor Zambranoland), he should at least get a chance to show those conditions were present.What's the world coming to? I mean, doesn't he want to get a few more wins under his belt, whether for himself or for his team, or is it just about getting paid and getting home in time for the news?
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Even when he was with the Braves there were rumors that he would ask out of games after six sometimes even five innings , yeah you would think that he would want to pitch deeper into games , I really have never liked the guy.
DocTee Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 In SF, Ryan Freel singled to start the game, but Giants Pitcher Jonathan Sanchez has retired the next 16 batters. He's at 60 pitches through 5 2/3 after topping 100 in his last start (5 innings)...and now Reds P Aaron Harang doubles to stop the streak. Sanchez has twice struck out the side and has 7 K's-- all swinging.
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