Movement on the All Time Homer list

[stevejrogers]

Barroid is still stuck on 753, could not do it on the same general site that Aaron launched # 755 and most likely a great majority of his 755 homers so he will attempt to do so at home vs the team Aaron hit the great majority of those 755 homers for.

Ken Griffey Jr is at 587, 13 away from 600 now while Sammy Sosa is on 602. Sosa is 4th all time and Junior is 5th

Little lower on the list, Frank Thomas has stalled a bit and is at 501, while Alex Rodriguez is knocking on the door after crushing # 498 this afternoon. Both are #s 21 and 22 all time.

Unless ARod goes into a massive slump or has a horrific injury he will surpass Jimmie Foxx as the youngest to 500, Foxx was 32 years and 337 days old, ARod is just a week shy of his 32nd birthday.

Uninteresting to note is that Derek Jeter is just 10 homers shy of 200 for his career. Oh but I guess those 190 were all clutch and ARod's 498 were all stat padding

Jim Thome 488, Manny Ramirez 485, and Gary Sheffield 478 should be the next three entrants to the 500 club, if not late this year then defiantly early next. Currently they occupy slots 25, 26 and 27 respectively

Carlos Delgado and Mike Piazza are the other current active 400 HR guys, both at 39 (423) and 40 (420) respectively.

The next to 400 should be Larry Wayne Jones (61st) at 373, and Andruw is at 361, tied with Joe DiMaggio for 64th all time.

[Guest iramets]

The 500 club is biased against black people and for that bigoted reason, Sheffield won't be allowed in.

You read it here first.

[MFS62]

Sit down.



Take a deep breath.



There is some exciting news.



Last night...




After over 1,200 at bats.



Ex- number one Mets draft pick Jason Tyner hit his first professional home run.




Maybe he's found his stroke and wil start climbing this list soon.



Later

[stevejrogers]

"Jason Tyner is going to be a real special ballplayer"-Suzyn Waldman after Tyner's debut with the Mets. She really saw him as a Bret Butler type of player.

[Guest iramets]

SteveJRogers wrote: "Jason Tyner is going to be a real special ballplayer"-Suzyn Waldman after Tyner's debut with the Mets. She really saw him as a Bret Butler type of player.

Waldman is a special kind of baseball analyst.

[Guest cooby]

How long do you think it will be until Arod breaks Bond's record? I'll bet it'll be just six or seven years

[Frayed Knot]

That sounds about right:
40 per/yr x 7 yrs = 280 and he's ~ 250 away, so depending on how many Barry winds up with.
Barry claims he's playing next year but that may not be his choice.

Of course ARod has to stay healthy which isn't a given (ask Griffey).
He's also ahead of where Pete Rose was for hits at age 32 - but that's mainly because
he got an earlier start. He gets fewer hits/yr than Pete so he'll eventually start falling behind
the pace on that one.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Bonds could build up a nice little pad if an AL team (say, Oakland) invites him to DH.

[metsmarathon]

i wonder what jose canseco has to say about arod in his next book...

[stevejrogers]

Frayed Knot wrote: That sounds about right: 40 per/yr x 7 yrs = 280 and he's ~ 250 away, so depending on how many Barry winds up with. Barry claims he's playing next year but that may not be his choice. Of course ARod has to stay healthy which isn't a given (ask Griffey). He's also ahead of where Pete Rose was for hits at age 32 - but that's mainly because he got an earlier start. He gets fewer hits/yr than Pete so he'll eventually start falling behind the pace on that one.

Nah Derek Jeter is going to get the Rose record! =

Actually thats what a delusional "Jeter is better than ARod" Yankee fan told me. And I really, really think he wasn't joking.

[Guest cooby]

If I were Barry, I'd play as long as I could to ward off the inevitable as long as possible.
It must be a weird feeling to be 95% sure that the record that has taken so long to be broken will be broken again within a few years

[Frayed Knot]

]Suzyn Waldman ... saw [Jason Tyner] as a Bret Butler type of player.

Butler was the best example of what you hoped Tyner could become.
Problem was that if he was gong to be successful as a slap-hitting speedster he needed to both get his OBP high and become a good ball-hawking CFer and Tyner never evolved into either. That kind of package w/only mediocre on-base skills won't cut it in a corner position.

And what it really points out is that there's a big gap between projecting what kind of player a prospect could become if his development goes well and acting as if getting there is merely a matter of when, not if.
Fans often fail to take that into consideration when valuing young players and then act as if they were lied to if and when he doesn't become what they themselves dreamed he'd be.

[metirish]

cooby wrote: If I were Barry, I'd play as long as I could to ward off the inevitable as long as possible. It must be a weird feeling to be 95% sure that the record that has taken so long to be broken will be broken again within a few years

Of course A-Rod's career could take a similar path like the one Griffey's took.

[Frayed Knot]

cooby wrote: If I were Barry, I'd play as long as I could to ward off the inevitable as long as possible.

Of course wanting to play and having someone offer to pay you huge amounts of greenbacks to play are two different things.
Signs point to the Giants cutting ties after this year and other teams - even one that decides they could use him - aren't as likely to offer him the virtual 'Here Barry, you fill in the amount' type of contract the Giants gave him this past year.
It'll be interesting to see if Barry stoops to accept a role-player's deal like Piazza got from Oakland: 1-year/~$4mil, take it or leave it; or is so used to being catered to that he thinks of himself as above stuff like that and opts to stay home.

[Frayed Knot]

]Derek Jeter is going to get the Rose record

Jeter is also ahead of where Rose was at age 33 (Jeter turned 33 a month ago) but so were a lot of players. Rose wasn't even among the top 10 in career hits at that age.
What Rose did do was get more hits after turning 32 than anyone is the history of the game, meaning that virtually everyone is going to lose ground as they go on.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Brett Butler by the way suffered a mild stroke this weekend my noozpaper tell me.

[Guest cooby]

metirish wrote: ="cooby"]If I were Barry, I'd play as long as I could to ward off the inevitable as long as possible. It must be a weird feeling to be 95% sure that the record that has taken so long to be broken will be broken again within a few years Of course A-Rod's career could take a similar path like the one Griffey's took.

Keeping that in mind, of course. But I hope that doesn't happen,