All this winning is terrible...

[Benjamin Grimm]

You've always been such an optimist.

How can they give up on this season while in first place, just before a 4-game series against the second place team?

[Guest Edgy DC]

I thik he's crank-yanking.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Is that anything like "taking the piss?"

[Willets Point]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: You've always been such an optimist. How can they give up on this season while in first place, just before a 4-game series against the second place team?

It's not about giving up. It's about making the team stronger now and in the future as opposed to *maybe* backing into the playoffs this season and then wallowing for the next 5-10 seasons behind vastly improved Braves, Phillies and Marlins teams.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Eveything is a maybe. No transactions guarantee anything.

I hope we make those releases/demotions/trades wisely because we'd need players to help now.

Allegedly Weaker Liineup Reyes, ss Lo Duca, c Beltran, cf Wright, 3b Green, rf Delgado, 1b Valentin, 2b Gomez, lf	Allegedly Stronger Liineup Reyes, ss Gotay, 2b Beltran, cf Wright, 3b Green, 1b (He's 33, he gets to stay) Gomez, lf Castro, c Johnson, rf
Allegedly Weaker Bench Castro Franco Easley Gotay Ledee	Allegedly Stornger Bench Jose A. Reyes Andy Tracy (Or Fernando Tatis) Anderson Hernandez Jake Gautreau (or Miguel Negron or Jesus Feliciano) Chip Ambres
Allegedly Weaker rotation Glavine Hernandez Maine Perez Sosa	Allegedly Stronger Rortation Maine Perez Sosa Pelfrey Vargas
Allegedly Weaker Pen Wagner Smith Feliciano Heilman Mota Schoeneweis Sele	Allegedly Stronger Pen Smith Feliciano Heilman Mota Schoeneweis Burgos Collazo

Edited June 29, 2007 by Guest

[Benjamin Grimm]

And among the DL guys, Alou and Pedro Martinez wouldn't be welcomed back.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Turns out that Green is 34. Looks like a lucky day for 32-year-old Fernando Tatis.

Edited June 29, 2007 by Guest

[Willets Point]

Looks good Edgy, and that's even before adding players picked up in trades from AL teams who think a Glavine or a Wagner will give them an edge and are willing to pay. As is, I'd bet the Allegedly Stronger Team could go 15-19 over a six-week period too (and score just 122 runs or 3.6 per game avg. in that time).

Edited June 29, 2007 by Guest

[Guest Edgy DC]

And I'd bet that that they'd be clearly worse over the final three months.

We could even measure it, by projecting what reserves' stats would be over the same workload the starters have, and using the Major League equivelances for the minor leaguers.

[Gwreck]

Elster88 wrote: Like I already said, I have no desire to engage in a WFAN-style WATP debate.

If you wished to avoid WFAN-style posting, perhaps the better step would have been to avoid throwing out the names of players the Mets have no chance of acquiring.

WATP = an acronym I'm unfamiliar with.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Wild-Assed Trade Proposal.

[Frayed Knot]

Willets Point wrote: It's not about giving up. It's about making the team stronger now and in the future as opposed to *maybe* backing into the playoffs this season and then wallowing for the next 5-10 seasons behind vastly improved Braves, Phillies and Marlins teams.

Overhauling a team that is currently in first place and has been so for virtually every day for the last year and a half is a perfectly stupid thing to do based on nothing more than an arbitrary age cutoff.
Especially so when a good chunk of the supposed senior citizens are contributing quite nicely at the moment (Glavine, Wagner, Hernandez, Valentin), could very well do so before the year is out (Alou, Martinez, Delgado), and ALL have contracts running out either at the end of this year or next.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Which is why I think he's tapping the bladder.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

WATP = Wild Ass Trade Proposal

[Elster88]

I think this current winning in Philly is a good thing. Not terrible.