Clemens Returns Again (Split from NYC's Weaker Sisters)

[DocTee]

Clemems returns sez ESPN

[Theoldmole]

If you didn't hate them enough before...

[metirish]

Great,and they get older....at his age what can they really expect from him apart from hype and six innings?

[nymr83]

i hope his arm breaks

[Guest Kid Carsey]

Cool, something else to root against. I wonder how much dough Steinie
will throw at this "solution."

I had the Braves on but it was the LA guys and they said he made the
announcement from Steinie's box? They weren't specific, maybe they
were joking and it went over my head. What kind of announcement?

[Guest Kid Carsey]

The other funny thing that pops into my mind and then I'll stop:

Tommorow's back page:

Mets extend road kill rampage on D'backs!

Clemens Returns!

[metirish]

Kid Carsey wrote: Cool, something else to root against. I wonder how much dough Steinie will throw at this "solution." I had the Braves on but it was the LA guys and they said he made the announcement from Steinie's box? They weren't specific, maybe they were joking and it went over my head. What kind of announcement?

I didn't see it but it sounds like it was puke worthy...

] By Jamshid Mousavinezhad and The Associated Press amNY.com Roger Clemens will be rejoining the New York Yankees, the pitcher announced during a game at Yankee Stadium against the Seattle Mariners. At the end of the seventh-inning stretch, Yankees public address announcer Bob Sheppard told fans to turn their attention to the box, where Clemens was standing with a microphone. As the video scoreboard in right-center televised Clemens, the seven-time Cy Young Award winner made the announcement himself. "It's a privilege to be back," he said. The fans erupted with cheers, with many yanking out their cellphones to spread the news. In an interview during the game, Clemens said "everything happened so fast," and that he hopes to make his first start by the end of the month. The Yankees are scheduled to start a series in Boston against the Red Sox on June 1. He credited one factor in his return to the close friendships he maintains with several Yankee players, including Derek Jeter, who he said has been calling him "once a week."

[stevejrogers]

Its now official, Interlocking NY on the Cooperstown plaque, and NO #21 retirement ceromony in Beantown.

Hearing and reading fan reaction to Clemens on the radio and internet though has me wondering if he actually will be treated like a "conquering hero" when he pitches again at Yankee Stadium. It seemed to me that the whole "Clemens should be a Yankee again" movement was a media-only movement

Also gotta wonder if this was a Boss move or a Cashman move.

BTW, Pavano heading for Tommy John surgery, so much for that.

]I had the Braves on but it was the LA guys and they said he made the announcement from Steinie's box? They weren't specific, maybe they were joking and it went over my head. What kind of announcement?

They pulled a page out of Big Stein's 1978 playbook. He was snuck into the Stadium, and they announced it to the Stadium crowd during the 7th inning.

[nymr83]

]Its now official, Interlocking NY on the Cooperstown plaque

now that they took that decision out of the player's hands no objective person could put him in as a Yankee...unless he plans on pitching 3 or 4 more years (and they'd beter all be good ones)

[stevejrogers]

Right, forgot about the "Dave Winfield Rule" (yes Boggs was in on it as well, but it was the rumors of something being fishy with Winfeld choosing the Padres for his plaque that took away the players right to choose the cap)

BTW, from the sounds of things, looks like its a 20 mil contract with none of the perks the Astros gave him (would be hard to do anyway since he lives in Texas and not New York and all)

[nymr83]

20 Million to pitch 2/3 of the season? that sounds like enough of a "perk" itself.

[MFS62]

He's harder to get rid of than an old condo in Florida.

Later

[Guest Edgy DC]

The Hall of Fame says it's always enjoyed the right to choose the insignia on the player's cap.

]In an interview during the game, Clemens said "everything happened so fast," and that he hopes to make his first start by the end of the month.

You're signing a contract for a season that's a month old, and "it all happened so fast"?

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Edgy - "You're signing a contract for a season that's a month old, and "it all happened so fast"?"

Well, we are talking about an individual that has admittedly mistaken the barrel end of a broken bat for the ball.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS???

Boy, how great would it be if he puts up an ERA over 6?

[metirish]

So just guessing here,say he makes his season debut a month from now,how many starts does he make the remainder of the season, 20?..

Cashman should have got a first baseman and bullpen help,course he probably will anyway.

[metirish]

When you throw in the luxury tax this will cost them about $26 million ,fucking crazy.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Thank you, Carl Pavano.

[stevejrogers]

Edgy DC wrote: The Hall of Fame says it's always enjoyed the right to choose the insignia on the player's cap.

Really? Catfish Hunter has no insignia on his plaque, and it was stated that it was his choice so he wouldn't slight either the A's (whom he'd probably would have been choosen as with 10 seasons, 3 rings, 4 20 game seasons and his only CY Young Award) or the Yankees (he was very much a part of the Yankee family the last couple of decades of his life despite only 5 seasons with only two "decent" seasons and one great one).

[Frayed Knot]

Yes, the HoF has always had the final say on what the plaque looks like - which means they also have the right to defer to the player's wishes if they feel like it. There is no "Winfield Rule" and nothing changed on account of his induction except for public talk about this (non) issue.



No way is Roger ready for the first Subway Series games so we'll have to wait until June to kick his ass.

[Guest Edgy DC]

"It was stated..."?

None of that suggests that the Hall didn't have final say.

[Guest Kid Carsey]

Just heard a cost of twenty-eight, can I get a thirty.

This is too good and fun to be true.

[Frayed Knot]

I think the deal is for a pro-rated portion of $28.5mil - which turns it into more like $20-even, or, about $4.5/month.
He will also get at least some of the "travel considerations" like he had with Houston ... y'know, the ones the Yanx said they'd never agree to.

[Guest iramets]

This is great even w/o the risk factor. As I like to observe about elderly pitchers, sometimes the best 41 y o pitcher just can't get anyone out at age 42. Just happens. Happened to Spahn, happened to Carlton, it's happening right now to Randy Johnson. Can't wait for Clemens to suck, and take the Yankees with him.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

SteveJRogers wrote: Right, forgot about the "Dave Winfield Rule" (yes Boggs was in on it as well, but it was the rumors of something being fishy with Winfeld choosing the Padres for his plaque that took away the players right to choose the cap) BTW, from the sounds of things, looks like its a 20 mil contract with none of the perks the Astros gave him (would be hard to do anyway since he lives in Texas and not New York and all)

I think it was actually the notion of players selling their plaque cap rights that got the Hall pissed and started enforcing its rules on the matter.

Boggs, if I remember, had a clause in his contract with D-Rays when they signed him that he'd wear that cap on his Hall plaque. The Hall, of course,said "Not so fast."

Bat-chucking bastard. The perfect villian in a season of villians. Yes, Barry, I mean you.

Hopefully our feel-good team of nice guys will be the ones standing in the end.

[metirish]

I can't imagine warm and fuzzy feeling for Clemens if he goes in wearing a Boston cap from the Red Sox faithful,although time heals all,we'll see....

[nymr83]

$20 million is alot of cash, too much for even the yankees to sit him down if he sucks i'd think... here's hoping they've saddled themselves with a bad pitcher who they can't take out of the rotation.

[metirish]

They are so full of shit,Torre especially,so much for St,Joe treating all his players the same.....Clemens can come and go(Cashman's words) as he wishes....

] "Joe and I talked about it this winter and Joe engaged the leadership among the players," Cashman said. "This is a unique individual. We're going to be happy when he's here every five days."

That was Cashman

] "This is something we talked about in spring with the players," Torre added. "Certain teams, maybe things wouldn't work, but I have a sense that the veteran status of this ballclub, we're interested in one thing."

Michael Kay told Clemens he got goose bumps watching him address the crowd......

] "This is Broadway," Kay said. "And the Yankees do things in a dramatic way."

[Frayed Knot]

If you think those statements are over the top you need to keep away from hearing Suzyn Waldman's announcement on the radio. Particularly around meal times.

[metirish]

I heard she just about wet her nickers in the booth......