Let's see your Willie!

[Benjamin Grimm]

2005 Managing Statistics
From the Sporting News Baseball Register

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[Guest iramets]

Thanks, Yancy.

Now I’ll compare the two years in terms of the 12 categories he was a 2006 outlier:

2006///2005
1. SB % leads the NL//// a close second among FT NL managers
2. SB att. A close second//led NL
3. Successful steals of 3B leads the league//tremendous lead in NL
4. “% of steals attempted w 2 out” leads the league//among the LOWEST in NL
So in the four stolen base categories, Willie was consistent from 2005 to 2006 except for steal attempts at 3b—low in 2005, high in 2006. Anyone understand why that happened?


5. Fewest starts in NL to pitchers going 120 or more P ///higher half of NL mgrs.
6. I'm surprised to see him as MOR as he is in squeezes: they have him down for 5, and the other day no one here could remember any ///again, 5 squeezes. Not the low, but the lower half.
7. 3rd lowest intentional BBs in NL ///6th lowest
8. 3rd lowest use of pinchhitters in NL /// lowest in NL
9. worst PH BA in NL /// Best PH BA in NL (!)
10. tied for fewest PH HR in NL ///4th highest PH HR in NL
11. fewest relievers facing only one batter in NL///middle of the pack And to finish out the dirty dozen with the peculiarity JD noted:

12 In 2005, Willie tied with LaGenius for the earliest favorite ining for a sac bunt, the 2nd inning.
So the only strong tendency that apply in both seasons are three SB categories (SB %, SB att, and successful steals of 3B, all which can be attributed to Reyes being on the roster, and not necessarily to Randolphian preferences alone.), a pronounced but not extreme distaste for intentional BBs and frequent PHers, and a hot-and-heavy love affair with the early sac bunt by pitchers.

I’m sure I’m not complete, and that others may mine more data from these two charts.

[metirish]

Not being a smart arse here but what will this tell us about Willie,all this information .

[Guest iramets]

metirish wrote: Not being a smart arse here but what will this tell us about Willie,all this information .

Not sure, but I was getting awful tired of calling him names. First you compile the data, then you see if it says anything.

Found another trait in both seasons: mid-inning pitching changes, near the bottom of NL both years. Doesn't like to switch pitchers in mid-inning.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I noticed that too, about the mid-inning pitcher changes. (Not from the charts, but from watching the games.)

It seems that starting pitchers seldom walk off the mound before the inning is over. I had been thinking that it was a nod to the experience of guys like Glavine, Hernandez, and Pedro. And maybe it is. I bet if we look at those guys innings pitched per game we'll see a lot of .0's and not many .1's and .2's. (That quicky method would miss, of course, any games where the pitcher was pulled during an inning before he got an out.)

[Guest Rotblatt]

Interesting stuff! One thing some of the statistically inclined peeps do is try to see if there's a consistent bias above or below pythogorean projections--some of them point to that as evidence of managerial competence/incompetence.

With Willie, he doesn't have enough years under his belt for anything meaningful, but . . .

2006: +6 Wins
2005: -6 Wins

Not really very helpful in this instance (although it is pleasingly symmetrical), but it's something to keep in mind in the years ahead.

In general, it's insanely difficult to objectively judge managers, and I'm curious to see where this goes!

[Guest iramets]

As to the sac bunt, Willie ordered 17 more in 2006 than in 2005, with a better lineup. He's had good success % both years with the sac bunt

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Could that be explained by better OBP?

[Gwreck]

="iramets"]Was he an emotional manager or a decision maker? He doesn't seem to implore his players to play hard, or otherwise get under their skin, but he makes decisions and sticks with them

What's the supporting data for the first assertion? How do you measure if someone "seems" to implore his players to play hard or not?

[Guest iramets]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Could that be explained by better OBP?

Mebbe. Let's think this through. If you've got fewer runners on base, sure you've got fewer opportunities to bunt a man over. But doesn't that also mean that each baserunner represents a rare chance for a run, discouraging you from trusting that the next three or four guys will string together hits and make bunting a waste of an at-bat? if you're playing for one run, doesn't that mean more or less that you'll be bunting any chance you get?

If you've got a strong hitting lineup, top to bottom, doesn't that dictate you're LESS in need of bunts because the next batter is capable of getting a hit or a HR? Isn't it considered counter-intuitive to bunt with a strong offensive team? Isnt a strong offense largely one with a good OBP?

[Guest iramets]

="Gwreck"] ="iramets"]Was he an emotional manager or a decision maker? He doesn't seem to implore his players to play hard, or otherwise get under their skin, but he makes decisions and sticks with them What's the supporting data for the first assertion? How do you measure if someone "seems" to implore his players to play hard or not?

Maybe that's a bad question, because I don't know how you'd know for sure. Guys like Lasorda and Piniella and Billy Martin gave a strong impression that they injected all sorts of emotion in their clubhouse, but maybe it was a front and they were calm, softspoken gentlemen behind closed doors, and Gil Hodges and Joe Torre might turn into fist-pumping, screaming maniacs once the reporters cleared out of the room.

Do you want to make the case that Willie's all intense and emotional and high-drama?

[Willets Point]

iramets wrote: Maybe that's a bad question,

There are no bad questions, just misunderstood questions.

[Guest Kid Carsey]

ira: >>>Was he an emotional manager or a decision maker?<<<

I think this question could be changed to include "or both". Sure, many leaders
tend to go to one extreme, but I think a good leader over the course of a long
period of time should be able to run the whole spectrum with success.

One of the qualities that I see in Willie that can't be measured with pages and pages
of stats and figures is that he can be seen fist pumping and fist bumping with players
but there's also no question that he's a stubborn decisive sort and that it's his way or
the highway as well.

[Guest iramets]

Okay, here's the whole Jamesian schmear (I'll c-n-p what I've already compiled as we go along). If you'd care to answer a question so far untouched, I'll c-n-p your answer into this chart: If I've said something with which you disagree, I'll try to hammer out some common ground. The important thing isn’t what I think of Willie, but what the truth is about Willie, as best as we can tell. Some things I’m sure I’m wrong about, but I will tolerate correction surprisingly well.

Year of Birth: 1954

Years Managed: 2005-7

Record as a Manager:

Managers for Whom He Played: Danny Murtaugh, Billy Martin, Dick Howser, Bob Lemon, Billy Martin, Dick Howser, Gene Michael, Bob Lemon, Gene Michael, Clyde King, Billy Martin, Yogi Berra, Billy Martin, Lou Piniella, Billy Marrtin, Lou Pinella, Tommy Lasorda, Tony LaRussa, Tom Trebelhorn, Jeff Torborg

Others by Whom He Was Influenced: He coached for Buck Showalter and, for ages, for Joe Torre. [Tell me if I'm wrong, but I expected Willie to rely on a veteran bench coach, like Don Zimmer, to compensate for his lack of in-game experience, but no such figure has emerged to my knowledge. Is this correct? ] He cited Billy Martin "as an influence when he took the job, though that may have been in part to distance himself from the 'Torre Protégé' tag."


Characteristics as a Player: Ability to get on base his primary offensive skill: Lifetime OBP about 100 points over lifetime BA, never hit more than 7 HRs per year. Usually batted first, sometimes second in order (presumably, the Yankees' getting Rickey mandated that switch.) Hit well in Yankee Stadium--overall an average or worse hitter vs. righthanded pitching but lifetime had a .100 advantage in OPS vs lefty pitchers. He seems to have an unusually hard time against righty powerpitchers: some of his worst lifetime stats are against the likes of Clemens, Seaver, Ryan, while lefty finesse guys (Scott McGregor, Mike Flanagan and Frank Viola) he hit like a gong.


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WHAT HE BROUGHT TO A BALL CLUB

Was He an Intense Manager or More of an Easy-to-Get-Along-With Type? "As African American managers go, closer to Frank Robinson than to Dusty Baker: Prefers tough love to tender encouragement."

Was he an emotional manager or a decision maker?
This one is the easiest. He's a decider. He doesn't seem to implore his players to play hard, or otherwise get under their skin, but he makes decisions and sticks with them


Was He More of an Optimist or More of a Problem Solver? Optimistically, he’s never seemed to consider replacing players enduring awful batting slumps (like Carlos Beltran in 2005) , and even kept guys like Mientkiwicz and Matsui in the lineup for weeks or months despite having no track record of being strong hitters.


HOW HE USED HIS PERSONNEL

Did He Favor a Set Lineup or a Rotation System? Regular lineup

Did He Like to Platoon? No. No use for it at all.

Did He Try to Solve His Problems with Proven Players or with Youngsters Who Still May Have Had Something to Learn? Having inherited a veteran-heavy staff (Pedro, Glavine, Traschel, Benson), he’s fit veteran pitchers into his rotation plans, as Orlando Hernandez and Jose Lima have cracked the rotation, but he’s also fit such young high-risk starters as John Maine, Mike Pelfrey, Jae Seo, Alay Soler, Brian Bannnister and Oliver Perez to take regular (if clearly probationary) spots at the end of the rotation. His bullpen has been dominated by veterans (Looper, Wagner, Roberto Hernandez, Mota, Darren Oliver, Scott Schoenweis, Chad Bradford) with a sprinkling of younger guys like Heilman and Sanchez. In the regular lineup, he’s gone with vets, or the young players he inherited..

How Many Players Did He Make Regulars Who Had Not Been Regulars Before, and Who Were They? He gave Victor Diaz a shot at RF in 2005, and Anderson Hernandez a shot at 2b in 2006, but neither took. Other than that, no one, really.

Did He Prefer to Go with Good Offensive Players or Did He Like the Glove Men? . He tolerates Shawn Green’s leaden glove and tinfoil arm in right to get his bat in the lineup, and similar tradeoffs have occurred with Moises Alou in left, and Victor Diaz generally. Delgado, Franco, Mike Jacobs, Brian Daubach and Green have been his firstbasemen, all of them better hitters than fielders. (Slick-fielding first baseman and Unhappy Camper Doug Mientkewicz played his way first lower in the batting order, then onto the DL, out of the lineup and off the team in 2005.) Willie presumably gave his okay to trading Mike Cameron for X-Man Nady, which is clearly a D-for-O type trade. He kept Mike Piazza in the lineup (not that he had a lot of options) when his fielding went from bad to worse in 2005.

Did He Like an Offense Based on Power, Speed, or High Averages?

Did He Use the Entire Roster or Did He Keep People Sitting on the Bench? He’s resisted expanding the roles of bench players like Endy Chavez and Ramon Castro, preferring to keep them cooling on the bench to getting a real shot at a starting job. .

Did He Build His Bench around Young Players Who Could Step into the Breach If Need Be, or Around Veteran Role-Players Who Had Their Own Functions Within a Game? Julio Franco, Endy Chavez, Ramon Castro, Chris Woodward, Marlon Anderson, Gerald Williams all know the feel of splinters in their butts. Very few kiddies sit on Willie’s bench—Milledge for a few weeks at the start of 2007, but he soon went down to NO where he could play regularly.
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GAME MANAGING AND USE OF STRATEGIES

Did He Go for the Big-Inning Offense, or Did He Like to Use the One-Run Strategies? They don’t call him “Wee Willie Small Balls” for nothing . (He pays them a small retainer to do so.) Bunts often, bunts early, likes to move runners along, keeps out of the DP, sends runners (mainly Reyes) a lot.

Did He Pinch-Hit Much, and If So, When? Rarely. He likes to double-switch, but sometimes do it for no real purpose, just because it wasn’t against the rules. Pinch-running is even more severe--in 2005-6, he ranked dead last in pinchrunners employed, despite such hopeless baserunners as Piazza, Lo Duca, Delgado, Alou, Green, with Endy Chavez and Marlon Anderson available to pinch-run much of the time.

Was There Anything Unusual About His Lineup Selection?
He doesn’t make big changes easily. He used Jose Reyes for a long time while his OBP was painfully low, and kept him in the leadoff spot amid complaints that he hadn’t shown that was where he belonged.—eventually, Reyes justified Willie’s faith in him. He also inserted Paul LoDuca in the #2 hole despite a lack of foot speed and a history of so-so offense, because LoDuca was a decent contact hitter. He kept 36 year old Mike Piazza in the middle of the batting order through mid-July in 2005 despite a brutal year; likewise he kept David Wright out of the middle of the order until mid-July, despite strong offensive numbers.


Did He Use the Sac Bunt Often? God, yes.

Did He Like to Use the Running Game? When you’ve got a Jose Reyes, you’d better

In What Circumstances Would He Issue an Intentional Walk? When he absolutely had to.

Did He Hit and Run Very Often? .Slightly above average, with below average success.

How Did He Change the Game?
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HANDLING THE PITCHING STAFF

Did He Like Power Pitchers, or Did He Prefer to Go with the People Who Put the Ball in Play? He's inherited a starting rotation (Glavine, Trachsel) of finesse pitchers (Pedro gets good K numbers, though his classification as a power pitcher now is questionable) but has gone to younger power types (Maine, Perez). In both of Willie's seasons, the Mets have had K totals above league average.


Did He Stay with His Starters, or Go to the Bullpen Quickly?

Did He Use a Four-Man Rotation?

Did He Use the Entire Staff, or Did He Try to Get Five or Six People to Do Most of the Work?

How Long Would He Stay with a Starting Pitcher Who Was Struggling?

Was There Anything Unique About His Handling of His Pitchers?

What Was His Strongest Point As a Manager?

If There Were No Professional Baseball, What Would He Have Done with His Life?

[Guest Kid Carsey]

I guess I don't get why being emotional and decisive are choices and can't
be combined. I'm decisive and emotional, the two things aren't opposites.

You're either indecisive or decisive. Emotional or unemotional. Someone can
certainly be emotionally decisive or whatever.

No biggie. Good thread so far.

[Gwreck]

="iramets"] ="Gwreck"] ="iramets"]Was he an emotional manager or a decision maker? He doesn't seem to implore his players to play hard, or otherwise get under their skin, but he makes decisions and sticks with them What's the supporting data for the first assertion? How do you measure if someone "seems" to implore his players to play hard or not? Maybe that's a bad question, because I don't know how you'd know for sure. Guys like Lasorda and Piniella and Billy Martin gave a strong impression that they injected all sorts of emotion in their clubhouse, but maybe it was a front and they were calm, softspoken gentlemen behind closed doors, and Gil Hodges and Joe Torre might turn into fist-pumping, screaming maniacs once the reporters cleared out of the room. Do you want to make the case that Willie's all intense and emotional and high-drama?

No.

Do you want to answer my "bad" question? You put the weasel words into your statement. "Doesn't seem to implore his players to play hard." How do you know that?

Emotional and high drama might be one way to "implore" your players to play hard, but I doubt it's the only one.

I actually believe that Willie indeed DOES implore his players to play hard for him. I'm not sure how I can prove it, other perhaps third-hand sources. How do you know what you asserted?

P.S. If all you want to say is that he doesn't act like Lou Pinella or Larry Bowa in the dugout, no problem -- the text just needs an edit or two.

[Guest iramets]

Gwreck wrote: [ Do you want to answer my "bad" question?

I didn't mean YOU had asked a bad question, I meant I had (or Bill James had). I'd just as soon ditch all of the subjective questions under WHAT HE BROUGHT TO A BALL CLUB (Was He an Intense Manager or More of an Easy-to-Get-Along-With Type? Was he an emotional manager or a decision maker? Was He More of an Optimist or More of a Problem Solver?) because we can't really know these answers, just kinda sense them. Certainly we can't answer them in the same way we can answer "Does he like to sacrifice bunt?"

I'm particularly reluctant to answer subjective-type questions because I'd like this thread to be as objective as possible. No "How does he treat the media?", no "Does he seem intelligent?", No "What do you think of his moral character?" for me, thank you, as I've indulged way too much in those areas in which I have only my subjective impressions, and to which this thread is meant to be a corrective.

Frankly, if you want to throw them out, that's fine with me, and if you want to supply your own response, I'll put that in there. As it is, I'm using JD's response ("As African American managers go, closer to Frank Robinson than to Dusty Baker: Prefers tough love to tender encouragement.") in place of my own on the "intense or easy?" question, even though I'm not sure where he gets that impression from.

Also, and this is a response to KC's point as well, I think several of these questions are designed to avoid an answer of "Well, both" where possible (it's not always possible, and James gives a few "Well, both" answers himself) because EVERY question gets a "Well, both" answer if you search hard enough. Even "Does Willie like to sacrifice bunt?" gets a "Yes and No" answer, if you want to be technical. He might lead the league in sac bunts every year, but does he LIKE it? No, he'd probably prefer to have Babe Ruth batting in slots 1-8. Does he sac-bunt as much as the manager of 1906 Chicago White Sox did? No, but probably the least bunting-team of 1906 bunted more than the -most-bunting team of 2006. So we ought to try to give a definitive answer (and explain the thinking behind the answer).

[Guest iramets]

The question about how deep does he take his starter into games seems to be one that's answered easily with available stats, but I can't find any IP/start stuff anywhere. Where should I look?

Some provisional data: two figures that seem to be climbing are team age (28.8 in 2005, 30.1 in 2006, and 32 so far this year) and % of sac bunts by pitcher (about 50/50 in 2005, more in 2006, so far this year 7 out of 9 sac bunts by pitchers). The team age thing suggests Willie likes veterans. The more control he has over the roster, the older it gets? Maybe.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Here's some really raw data, but it can be pasted into a spreadsheet if you like.

First, for each year, number of innings pitched by Mets starters by number of games. For example, in 1962 the Mets starter went 2.1 innings three times.

(Scroll down for a second list which will have similar counts for opposing starters in Mets games. Post-season games are included.)

Mets Pitchers

year	ip	count(*)
1962	0.0	3
1962	0.1	2
1962	0.2	3
1962	1.0	4
1962	1.2	2
1962	2.0	2
1962	2.1	3
1962	2.2	3
1962	3.0	9
1962	3.1	4
1962	3.2	1
1962	4.0	5
1962	4.1	5
1962	4.2	1
1962	5.0	10
1962	5.1	8
1962	6.0	15
1962	6.1	2
1962	6.2	3
1962	7.0	19
1962	7.1	3
1962	8.0	17
1962	8.1	4
1962	8.2	1
1962	9.0	26
1962	9.1	2
1962	9.2	1
1962	10.0	2
1962	15.0	1
1963	0.0	1
1963	0.1	1
1963	0.2	4
1963	1.0	1
1963	1.1	1
1963	1.2	6
1963	2.0	3
1963	2.1	3
1963	2.2	4
1963	3.0	5
1963	3.1	3
1963	3.2	3
1963	4.0	3
1963	4.1	3
1963	4.2	5
1963	5.0	7
1963	5.1	2
1963	5.2	2
1963	6.0	10
1963	6.1	1
1963	6.2	4
1963	7.0	24
1963	7.2	3
1963	8.0	19
1963	8.1	4
1963	8.2	3
1963	9.0	35
1963	10.0	1
1963	11.0	1
1964	0.1	3
1964	0.2	1
1964	1.0	1
1964	1.1	1
1964	1.2	2
1964	2.0	3
1964	2.1	3
1964	2.2	3
1964	3.0	4
1964	3.1	3
1964	3.2	3
1964	4.0	9
1964	4.1	5
1964	4.2	2
1964	5.0	11
1964	5.1	1
1964	5.2	4
1964	6.0	16
1964	6.1	5
1964	6.2	6
1964	7.0	21
1964	7.1	5
1964	7.2	3
1964	8.0	12
1964	8.1	3
1964	9.0	31
1964	9.1	1
1964	10.1	1
1965	0.0	1
1965	0.1	3
1965	0.2	2
1965	1.0	2
1965	1.1	2
1965	1.2	1
1965	2.0	1
1965	2.1	6
1965	2.2	1
1965	3.0	6
1965	3.1	1
1965	3.2	5
1965	4.0	11
1965	4.1	3
1965	4.2	8
1965	5.0	10
1965	5.1	5
1965	5.2	4
1965	6.0	14
1965	6.1	1
1965	6.2	4
1965	7.0	19
1965	7.1	3
1965	7.2	3
1965	8.0	14
1965	8.1	4
1965	8.2	2
1965	9.0	23
1965	10.0	2
1965	11.0	1
1965	13.0	1
1965	15.0	1
1966	0.0	1
1966	0.1	1
1966	0.2	1
1966	1.0	3
1966	1.1	2
1966	1.2	1
1966	2.0	4
1966	2.1	4
1966	2.2	2
1966	3.0	6
1966	3.1	4
1966	3.2	1
1966	4.0	7
1966	4.1	9
1966	4.2	6
1966	5.0	11
1966	5.1	7
1966	5.2	4
1966	6.0	9
1966	6.1	6
1966	6.2	7
1966	7.0	16
1966	7.1	4
1966	7.2	1
1966	8.0	4
1966	8.2	1
1966	9.0	37
1966	10.0	2
1967	0.1	1
1967	0.2	2
1967	1.0	2
1967	1.1	3
1967	1.2	2
1967	2.0	4
1967	2.1	5
1967	2.2	5
1967	3.0	7
1967	3.1	3
1967	3.2	3
1967	4.0	5
1967	4.1	3
1967	4.2	3
1967	5.0	15
1967	5.1	3
1967	5.2	3
1967	6.0	11
1967	6.1	4
1967	6.2	6
1967	7.0	14
1967	7.1	3
1967	7.2	5
1967	8.0	11
1967	8.1	3
1967	8.2	1
1967	9.0	30
1967	9.2	1
1967	10.0	1
1967	11.0	2
1967	11.2	1
1968	0.2	1
1968	1.1	1
1968	2.0	3
1968	2.1	2
1968	3.0	1
1968	3.1	1
1968	3.2	3
1968	4.0	4
1968	4.1	1
1968	4.2	3
1968	5.0	6
1968	5.1	5
1968	5.2	1
1968	6.0	11
1968	6.1	6
1968	6.2	6
1968	7.0	28
1968	7.1	7
1968	7.2	6
1968	8.0	13
1968	8.1	4
1968	8.2	4
1968	9.0	39
1968	10.0	5
1968	11.0	1
1968	12.0	1
1969	0.1	2
1969	0.2	1
1969	1.0	2
1969	1.2	3
1969	2.0	3
1969	2.1	3
1969	2.2	2
1969	3.0	4
1969	3.1	4
1969	4.0	3
1969	4.1	2
1969	4.2	4
1969	5.0	9
1969	5.1	1
1969	5.2	2
1969	6.0	12
1969	6.1	3
1969	6.2	1
1969	7.0	24
1969	7.1	4
1969	7.2	4
1969	8.0	13
1969	8.1	4
1969	8.2	3
1969	9.0	53
1969	10.0	3
1969	11.0	1
1970	0.1	1
1970	1.0	1
1970	1.1	2
1970	2.0	1
1970	3.0	2
1970	3.1	3
1970	3.2	2
1970	4.0	11
1970	4.1	4
1970	4.2	1
1970	5.0	6
1970	5.1	1
1970	5.2	4
1970	6.0	14
1970	6.1	1
1970	7.0	30
1970	7.1	3
1970	7.2	2
1970	8.0	21
1970	8.1	1
1970	8.2	4
1970	9.0	45
1970	9.2	2
1971	0.0	2
1971	0.1	1
1971	0.2	1
1971	1.0	1
1971	1.1	2
1971	1.2	4
1971	2.0	3
1971	2.1	3
1971	2.2	1
1971	3.0	2
1971	3.2	2
1971	4.0	5
1971	4.1	3
1971	4.2	6
1971	5.0	7
1971	5.1	3
1971	5.2	2
1971	6.0	9
1971	6.1	3
1971	6.2	9
1971	7.0	18
1971	7.1	5
1971	7.2	3
1971	8.0	17
1971	8.1	2
1971	8.2	3
1971	9.0	40
1971	9.2	1
1971	10.0	4
1972	0.2	2
1972	1.0	1
1972	2.0	4
1972	2.1	3
1972	2.2	2
1972	3.0	1
1972	3.1	2
1972	3.2	4
1972	4.0	5
1972	4.2	1
1972	5.0	9
1972	5.1	3
1972	6.0	22
1972	6.1	3
1972	6.2	4
1972	7.0	28
1972	7.1	6
1972	7.2	2
1972	8.0	10
1972	8.1	5
1972	8.2	4
1972	9.0	33
1972	10.0	2
1973	0.1	1
1973	0.2	2
1973	1.1	2
1973	2.0	2
1973	2.1	2
1973	2.2	1
1973	3.0	3
1973	3.2	2
1973	4.0	4
1973	4.1	2
1973	4.2	1
1973	5.0	9
1973	5.1	1
1973	5.2	5
1973	6.0	19
1973	6.1	3
1973	6.2	9
1973	7.0	27
1973	7.1	3
1973	7.2	5
1973	8.0	16
1973	8.1	2
1973	8.2	4
1973	9.0	44
1973	9.1	1
1973	10.0	1
1973	11.0	1
1973	12.0	1
1974	1.0	1
1974	1.1	1
1974	1.2	4
1974	2.0	2
1974	2.2	2
1974	3.1	2
1974	3.2	2
1974	4.0	4
1974	4.1	2
1974	4.2	3
1974	5.0	13
1974	5.1	1
1974	5.2	4
1974	6.0	15
1974	6.1	4
1974	6.2	2
1974	7.0	23
1974	7.1	5
1974	7.2	3
1974	8.0	16
1974	8.1	4
1974	8.2	4
1974	9.0	42
1974	10.0	1
1974	10.2	1
1974	12.0	1
1975	0.0	1
1975	0.2	1
1975	1.1	4
1975	1.2	3
1975	2.0	1
1975	2.1	3
1975	2.2	2
1975	3.0	2
1975	3.1	2
1975	3.2	3
1975	4.0	5
1975	4.1	3
1975	4.2	4
1975	5.0	9
1975	5.1	2
1975	5.2	3
1975	6.0	18
1975	6.1	2
1975	6.2	2
1975	7.0	18
1975	7.1	5
1975	7.2	4
1975	8.0	17
1975	8.1	3
1975	8.2	2
1975	9.0	38
1975	10.0	4
1975	11.0	1
1976	1.2	1
1976	2.0	2
1976	3.0	5
1976	3.1	2
1976	3.2	2
1976	4.0	5
1976	4.2	5
1976	5.0	7
1976	5.2	4
1976	6.0	17
1976	6.1	7
1976	6.2	2
1976	7.0	25
1976	7.1	4
1976	7.2	2
1976	8.0	12
1976	8.1	2
1976	8.2	5
1976	9.0	50
1976	9.2	1
1976	10.0	2
1977	0.0	1
1977	1.0	2
1977	2.0	1
1977	2.1	1
1977	2.2	1
1977	3.0	2
1977	3.1	3
1977	3.2	1
1977	4.0	5
1977	4.1	7
1977	4.2	1
1977	5.0	11
1977	5.1	5
1977	5.2	5
1977	6.0	26
1977	6.1	6
1977	6.2	4
1977	7.0	26
1977	7.1	8
1977	7.2	8
1977	8.0	9
1977	8.1	1
1977	8.2	1
1977	9.0	27
1978	0.1	1
1978	1.2	1
1978	2.0	5
1978	2.2	1
1978	3.0	5
1978	3.2	3
1978	4.0	5
1978	4.1	4
1978	4.2	2
1978	5.0	11
1978	5.1	6
1978	5.2	3
1978	6.0	27
1978	6.1	6
1978	6.2	3
1978	7.0	33
1978	7.1	4
1978	7.2	3
1978	8.0	8
1978	8.1	4
1978	8.2	2
1978	9.0	21
1978	9.1	1
1978	9.2	1
1978	10.0	1
1978	11.0	1
1979	0.1	3
1979	0.2	1
1979	1.0	1
1979	1.2	1
1979	2.0	3
1979	2.1	1
1979	2.2	4
1979	3.0	4
1979	3.1	3
1979	3.2	2
1979	4.0	10
1979	4.1	4
1979	4.2	1
1979	5.0	16
1979	5.1	5
1979	5.2	6
1979	6.0	30
1979	6.1	3
1979	6.2	7
1979	7.0	16
1979	7.1	6
1979	7.2	3
1979	8.0	11
1979	8.1	5
1979	8.2	1
1979	9.0	15
1979	10.0	1
1980	0.1	1
1980	1.1	2
1980	1.2	2
1980	2.0	9
1980	2.1	2
1980	2.2	2
1980	3.0	6
1980	3.1	3
1980	3.2	4
1980	4.0	14
1980	4.1	3
1980	4.2	10
1980	5.0	18
1980	5.1	4
1980	5.2	2
1980	6.0	25
1980	6.1	3
1980	6.2	2
1980	7.0	15
1980	7.1	5
1980	7.2	2
1980	8.0	7
1980	8.1	1
1980	8.2	3
1980	9.0	16
1980	10.0	1
1981	0.0	1
1981	1.0	2
1981	1.1	1
1981	1.2	4
1981	2.0	4
1981	2.1	1
1981	2.2	2
1981	3.0	2
1981	3.1	3
1981	3.2	4
1981	4.0	8
1981	4.1	1
1981	4.2	4
1981	5.0	10
1981	5.1	4
1981	5.2	5
1981	6.0	12
1981	6.1	4
1981	6.2	1
1981	7.0	16
1981	7.1	2
1981	7.2	3
1981	8.0	3
1981	8.2	1
1981	9.0	7
1982	0.0	2
1982	0.1	1
1982	0.2	1
1982	1.0	1
1982	1.1	2
1982	1.2	1
1982	2.0	2
1982	2.1	5
1982	2.2	2
1982	3.0	2
1982	3.1	3
1982	3.2	3
1982	4.0	11
1982	4.1	2
1982	4.2	1
1982	5.0	15
1982	5.1	3
1982	5.2	2
1982	6.0	24
1982	6.1	6
1982	6.2	7
1982	7.0	21
1982	7.1	3
1982	7.2	6
1982	8.0	13
1982	8.1	5
1982	8.2	1
1982	9.0	15
1982	10.0	2
1983	0.0	1
1983	0.1	1
1983	0.2	3
1983	1.0	2
1983	1.1	3
1983	1.2	3
1983	2.1	1
1983	2.2	1
1983	3.0	3
1983	3.1	1
1983	4.0	6
1983	4.1	2
1983	4.2	6
1983	5.0	15
1983	5.1	5
1983	5.2	6
1983	6.0	23
1983	6.1	9
1983	6.2	4
1983	7.0	26
1983	7.1	2
1983	7.2	1
1983	8.0	17
1983	8.1	3
1983	8.2	1
1983	9.0	15
1983	10.0	1
1983	11.0	1
1984	0.2	1
1984	1.0	1
1984	1.1	3
1984	2.0	1
1984	2.1	2
1984	2.2	2
1984	3.0	5
1984	3.1	2
1984	3.2	2
1984	4.0	8
1984	4.2	3
1984	5.0	20
1984	5.1	1
1984	5.2	5
1984	6.0	28
1984	6.1	5
1984	6.2	5
1984	7.0	28
1984	7.1	1
1984	7.2	6
1984	8.0	17
1984	8.1	1
1984	8.2	1
1984	9.0	14
1985	0.1	1
1985	2.0	3
1985	2.1	1
1985	3.0	1
1985	3.2	3
1985	4.0	3
1985	4.1	3
1985	4.2	3
1985	5.0	18
1985	5.1	3
1985	5.2	1
1985	6.0	28
1985	6.1	3
1985	6.2	4
1985	7.0	24
1985	7.1	6
1985	7.2	1
1985	8.0	18
1985	8.1	1
1985	8.2	1
1985	9.0	36
1986	1.1	1
1986	2.1	1
1986	2.2	1
1986	3.0	1
1986	3.1	2
1986	3.2	2
1986	4.0	6
1986	4.1	3
1986	4.2	2
1986	5.0	21
1986	5.1	4
1986	5.2	1
1986	6.0	28
1986	6.1	4
1986	6.2	5
1986	7.0	34
1986	7.1	1
1986	7.2	2
1986	8.0	20
1986	8.1	1
1986	8.2	1
1986	9.0	33
1986	10.0	1
1987	0.0	1
1987	1.0	1
1987	1.1	1
1987	2.0	2
1987	2.1	2
1987	2.2	1
1987	3.0	5
1987	3.1	3
1987	3.2	2
1987	4.0	9
1987	4.2	2
1987	5.0	19
1987	5.1	3
1987	5.2	2
1987	6.0	30
1987	6.1	8
1987	6.2	9
1987	7.0	18
1987	7.1	4
1987	7.2	3
1987	8.0	18
1987	8.2	2
1987	9.0	17
1988	0.1	1
1988	0.2	1
1988	1.0	2
1988	2.0	1
1988	3.0	4
1988	3.1	1
1988	3.2	2
1988	4.0	5
1988	4.1	2
1988	4.2	2
1988	5.0	12
1988	5.1	2
1988	6.0	19
1988	6.1	6
1988	6.2	7
1988	7.0	37
1988	7.1	3
1988	7.2	3
1988	8.0	15
1988	8.1	6
1988	8.2	2
1988	9.0	31
1988	9.1	1
1988	10.0	2
1989	0.2	1
1989	2.0	5
1989	2.1	1
1989	2.2	6
1989	3.0	3
1989	4.0	6
1989	4.1	1
1989	4.2	2
1989	5.0	16
1989	5.1	1
1989	5.2	3
1989	6.0	19
1989	6.1	3
1989	6.2	7
1989	7.0	27
1989	7.1	8
1989	7.2	6
1989	8.0	20
1989	8.1	2
1989	8.2	2
1989	9.0	23
1990	1.1	2
1990	1.2	1
1990	2.0	1
1990	3.0	3
1990	3.1	4
1990	3.2	1
1990	4.0	5
1990	4.1	1
1990	4.2	2
1990	5.0	17
1990	5.1	3
1990	5.2	1
1990	6.0	30
1990	6.1	6
1990	6.2	2
1990	7.0	27
1990	7.1	8
1990	7.2	9
1990	8.0	19
1990	8.1	2
1990	8.2	2
1990	9.0	16
1991	1.2	2
1991	2.0	3
1991	2.1	1
1991	3.0	2
1991	3.2	2
1991	4.0	7
1991	4.1	6
1991	4.2	1
1991	5.0	17
1991	5.1	2
1991	5.2	1
1991	6.0	30
1991	6.1	9
1991	6.2	4
1991	7.0	35
1991	7.1	1
1991	7.2	1
1991	8.0	22
1991	8.1	2
1991	8.2	2
1991	9.0	11
1992	0.2	1
1992	1.2	1
1992	2.0	1
1992	2.1	4
1992	3.0	2
1992	3.1	1
1992	3.2	4
1992	4.0	5
1992	4.2	7
1992	5.0	8
1992	5.1	6
1992	5.2	9
1992	6.0	27
1992	6.1	5
1992	6.2	5
1992	7.0	30
1992	7.1	3
1992	7.2	3
1992	8.0	23
1992	8.1	1
1992	9.0	16
1993	0.1	1
1993	2.0	1
1993	2.1	1
1993	3.0	3
1993	3.2	3
1993	4.0	6
1993	4.1	5
1993	4.2	1
1993	5.0	18
1993	5.1	1
1993	5.2	1
1993	6.0	23
1993	6.1	5
1993	6.2	3
1993	7.0	32
1993	7.1	5
1993	7.2	3
1993	8.0	36
1993	9.0	13
1993	10.0	1
1994	1.1	1
1994	2.1	1
1994	2.2	1
1994	3.0	1
1994	3.1	1
1994	3.2	1
1994	4.0	4
1994	4.1	2
1994	4.2	3
1994	5.0	13
1994	5.1	4
1994	5.2	3
1994	6.0	14
1994	6.1	9
1994	6.2	3
1994	7.0	20
1994	7.1	3
1994	8.0	21
1994	9.0	7
1994	10.0	1
1995	2.0	2
1995	2.1	1
1995	2.2	3
1995	3.0	2
1995	3.1	1
1995	3.2	1
1995	4.0	2
1995	4.1	3
1995	4.2	2
1995	5.0	16
1995	5.1	3
1995	5.2	5
1995	6.0	21
1995	6.1	3
1995	6.2	2
1995	7.0	38
1995	7.1	6
1995	7.2	2
1995	8.0	21
1995	8.2	1
1995	9.0	8
1995	10.0	1
1996	1.0	1
1996	2.0	2
1996	2.1	2
1996	3.0	4
1996	3.1	1
1996	3.2	4
1996	4.0	9
1996	4.1	2
1996	4.2	5
1996	5.0	11
1996	5.1	7
1996	5.2	5
1996	6.0	27
1996	6.1	4
1996	6.2	4
1996	7.0	31
1996	7.1	7
1996	8.0	25
1996	8.1	2
1996	8.2	1
1996	9.0	8
1997	0.0	1
1997	1.2	2
1997	2.0	3
1997	2.2	1
1997	3.0	3
1997	4.0	7
1997	4.1	3
1997	4.2	3
1997	5.0	22
1997	5.1	4
1997	5.2	2
1997	6.0	36
1997	6.1	6
1997	6.2	7
1997	7.0	28
1997	7.1	3
1997	7.2	2
1997	8.0	19
1997	8.2	3
1997	9.0	7
1998	1.2	1
1998	2.0	1
1998	2.2	1
1998	3.0	2
1998	3.1	2
1998	3.2	3
1998	4.0	7
1998	4.2	1
1998	5.0	17
1998	5.1	6
1998	5.2	2
1998	6.0	38
1998	6.1	5
1998	6.2	5
1998	7.0	37
1998	7.1	3
1998	7.2	2
1998	8.0	17
1998	8.1	2
1998	8.2	1
1998	9.0	9
1999	0.0	1
1999	0.1	1
1999	1.1	1
1999	1.2	2
1999	2.0	1
1999	2.2	5
1999	3.0	6
1999	3.1	1
1999	3.2	1
1999	4.0	5
1999	4.1	4
1999	4.2	3
1999	5.0	20
1999	5.1	7
1999	5.2	6
1999	6.0	34
1999	6.1	8
1999	6.2	3
1999	7.0	43
1999	7.1	4
1999	7.2	3
1999	8.0	6
1999	8.1	2
1999	8.2	1
1999	9.0	5
2000	0.0	1
2000	1.0	1
2000	1.1	1
2000	1.2	1
2000	2.0	2
2000	2.2	1
2000	3.0	6
2000	3.1	3
2000	4.0	5
2000	4.2	2
2000	5.0	18
2000	5.1	8
2000	5.2	6
2000	6.0	29
2000	6.1	3
2000	6.2	6
2000	7.0	42
2000	7.1	3
2000	7.2	7
2000	8.0	20
2000	8.1	2
2000	8.2	1
2000	9.0	8
2001	0.1	1
2001	1.0	1
2001	1.2	2
2001	2.0	2
2001	2.1	2
2001	2.2	4
2001	3.0	4
2001	3.1	2
2001	4.0	5
2001	4.1	4
2001	4.2	1
2001	5.0	12
2001	5.1	1
2001	5.2	3
2001	6.0	32
2001	6.1	8
2001	6.2	6
2001	7.0	48
2001	7.1	2
2001	7.2	2
2001	8.0	14
2001	9.0	6
2002	2.0	1
2002	2.1	1
2002	3.0	8
2002	3.1	3
2002	4.0	8
2002	4.1	1
2002	4.2	3
2002	5.0	32
2002	5.1	8
2002	5.2	3
2002	6.0	29
2002	6.1	3
2002	6.2	4
2002	7.0	30
2002	7.1	7
2002	7.2	3
2002	8.0	5
2002	8.1	3
2002	9.0	9
2003	1.0	2
2003	1.2	1
2003	2.0	2
2003	3.0	4
2003	3.1	3
2003	3.2	1
2003	4.0	10
2003	4.1	3
2003	4.2	5
2003	5.0	21
2003	5.1	4
2003	5.2	7
2003	6.0	50
2003	6.1	3
2003	6.2	6
2003	7.0	26
2003	7.1	4
2003	7.2	1
2003	8.0	4
2003	8.1	1
2003	9.0	3
2004	1.0	1
2004	1.2	1
2004	2.0	2
2004	2.1	1
2004	3.0	5
2004	3.2	2
2004	4.0	11
2004	4.1	4
2004	4.2	1
2004	5.0	23
2004	5.1	5
2004	5.2	7
2004	6.0	46
2004	6.1	8
2004	6.2	6
2004	7.0	29
2004	7.1	1
2004	7.2	3
2004	8.0	4
2004	9.0	2
2005	0.2	1
2005	1.1	1
2005	2.1	1
2005	3.1	1
2005	3.2	2
2005	4.0	4
2005	4.1	1
2005	4.2	4
2005	5.0	16
2005	5.1	5
2005	5.2	7
2005	6.0	42
2005	6.1	4
2005	6.2	5
2005	7.0	35
2005	7.1	4
2005	7.2	3
2005	8.0	19
2005	8.1	1
2005	9.0	6
2006	1.0	2
2006	1.1	1
2006	1.2	2
2006	2.2	3
2006	3.0	7
2006	3.1	2
2006	3.2	1
2006	4.0	7
2006	4.1	5
2006	4.2	4
2006	5.0	29
2006	5.1	8
2006	5.2	4
2006	6.0	44
2006	6.1	10
2006	6.2	2
2006	7.0	31
2006	7.1	1
2006	7.2	1
2006	8.0	4
2006	9.0	4
2007	2.2	1
2007	3.0	1
2007	4.2	1
2007	5.0	2
2007	5.1	1
2007	5.2	1
2007	6.0	5
2007	6.2	1
2007	7.0	6
2007	7.2	1

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Opposing Pitchers

year	ip	count(*)
1962	0.0	1
1962	0.1	2
1962	0.2	1
1962	1.0	1
1962	1.1	2
1962	1.2	4
1962	2.0	2
1962	2.1	2
1962	2.2	2
1962	3.0	4
1962	3.1	2
1962	3.2	1
1962	4.0	2
1962	4.1	1
1962	4.2	2
1962	5.0	3
1962	5.1	3
1962	5.2	2
1962	6.0	10
1962	6.1	6
1962	6.2	2
1962	7.0	16
1962	7.1	7
1962	7.2	3
1962	8.0	17
1962	8.1	4
1962	8.2	3
1962	9.0	53
1962	10.0	2
1962	10.1	1
1963	0.2	1
1963	1.1	4
1963	1.2	4
1963	2.1	3
1963	2.2	1
1963	3.0	5
1963	3.1	1
1963	3.2	3
1963	4.0	3
1963	4.2	2
1963	5.0	8
1963	5.1	3
1963	5.2	5
1963	6.0	12
1963	6.1	6
1963	6.2	1
1963	7.0	16
1963	7.1	3
1963	7.2	2
1963	8.0	13
1963	8.1	3
1963	8.2	5
1963	9.0	56
1963	10.0	2
1964	0.1	2
1964	1.0	4
1964	1.1	1
1964	1.2	1
1964	2.1	3
1964	2.2	2
1964	3.0	7
1964	3.2	1
1964	4.0	7
1964	4.1	2
1964	4.2	8
1964	5.0	6
1964	5.1	4
1964	5.2	1
1964	6.0	7
1964	6.1	6
1964	6.2	5
1964	7.0	10
1964	7.1	2
1964	7.2	4
1964	8.0	8
1964	8.1	3
1964	8.2	3
1964	9.0	62
1964	9.1	1
1964	10.0	2
1964	11.1	1
1965	0.1	3
1965	0.2	2
1965	1.1	4
1965	1.2	2
1965	2.0	3
1965	2.1	2
1965	2.2	1
1965	3.0	1
1965	3.1	2
1965	3.2	2
1965	4.0	5
1965	4.1	4
1965	4.2	3
1965	5.0	6
1965	5.1	3
1965	5.2	3
1965	6.0	13
1965	6.2	6
1965	7.0	13
1965	7.1	2
1965	7.2	3
1965	8.0	13
1965	8.1	3
1965	8.2	1
1965	9.0	60
1965	9.2	1
1965	10.1	1
1965	11.0	1
1965	15.0	1
1966	0.1	1
1966	0.2	2
1966	1.0	1
1966	1.1	2
1966	1.2	3
1966	2.0	5
1966	2.1	4
1966	2.2	3
1966	3.0	2
1966	3.1	3
1966	3.2	4
1966	4.0	3
1966	4.1	2
1966	4.2	4
1966	5.0	9
1966	5.1	2
1966	5.2	2
1966	6.0	16
1966	6.1	7
1966	6.2	7
1966	7.0	13
1966	7.1	4
1966	7.2	2
1966	8.0	11
1966	8.1	3
1966	8.2	2
1966	9.0	42
1966	9.2	1
1966	10.0	1
1967	0.2	1
1967	1.0	2
1967	1.1	3
1967	1.2	2
1967	2.0	1
1967	2.1	1
1967	2.2	2
1967	3.0	3
1967	3.2	3
1967	4.0	3
1967	4.1	7
1967	4.2	5
1967	5.0	5
1967	5.1	5
1967	5.2	1
1967	6.0	11
1967	6.1	2
1967	6.2	6
1967	7.0	14
1967	7.1	5
1967	7.2	4
1967	8.0	11
1967	8.1	6
1967	8.2	1
1967	9.0	54
1967	10.0	2
1967	10.2	1
1967	11.0	1
1968	0.0	2
1968	0.1	1
1968	1.0	1
1968	1.1	1
1968	2.0	2
1968	2.1	5
1968	2.2	2
1968	3.0	2
1968	3.1	1
1968	4.0	1
1968	4.1	4
1968	4.2	2
1968	5.0	12
1968	5.1	3
1968	5.2	3
1968	6.0	12
1968	6.1	5
1968	6.2	2
1968	7.0	18
1968	7.1	9
1968	7.2	3
1968	8.0	9
1968	8.1	5
1968	8.2	3
1968	9.0	50
1968	10.0	2
1968	11.0	3
1969	0.0	1
1969	0.1	3
1969	0.2	1
1969	1.0	1
1969	1.1	3
1969	1.2	2
1969	2.0	1
1969	2.1	3
1969	3.0	1
1969	3.1	3
1969	3.2	2
1969	4.0	3
1969	4.1	4
1969	4.2	2
1969	5.0	7
1969	5.1	3
1969	5.2	4
1969	6.0	13
1969	6.1	2
1969	6.2	7
1969	7.0	29
1969	7.1	6
1969	7.2	4
1969	8.0	19
1969	8.1	2
1969	8.2	3
1969	9.0	35
1969	10.0	3
1969	10.1	1
1969	11.0	1
1969	13.1	1
1970	0.1	1
1970	0.2	1
1970	1.1	2
1970	1.2	1
1970	2.0	5
1970	2.1	3
1970	2.2	2
1970	3.0	4
1970	3.1	2
1970	3.2	3
1970	4.0	2
1970	4.1	4
1970	4.2	5
1970	5.0	14
1970	5.1	5
1970	5.2	4
1970	6.0	23
1970	6.1	3
1970	6.2	6
1970	7.0	17
1970	7.1	5
1970	7.2	4
1970	8.0	7
1970	8.1	2
1970	9.0	32
1970	9.2	1
1970	10.0	3
1970	12.0	1
1971	0.0	3
1971	0.1	1
1971	1.0	1
1971	1.1	3
1971	1.2	1
1971	2.0	1
1971	2.1	1
1971	2.2	2
1971	3.0	2
1971	3.1	1
1971	3.2	4
1971	4.0	4
1971	4.1	1
1971	4.2	8
1971	5.0	11
1971	5.1	6
1971	5.2	4
1971	6.0	9
1971	6.1	5
1971	6.2	4
1971	7.0	17
1971	7.1	1
1971	7.2	2
1971	8.0	16
1971	8.1	4
1971	8.2	4
1971	9.0	43
1971	10.0	1
1971	10.2	1
1971	12.0	1
1972	0.1	1
1972	0.2	1
1972	1.1	1
1972	1.2	1
1972	2.0	3
1972	2.1	1
1972	2.2	3
1972	3.0	2
1972	3.1	1
1972	3.2	2
1972	4.0	5
1972	4.1	3
1972	4.2	1
1972	5.0	8
1972	5.1	6
1972	5.2	3
1972	6.0	17
1972	6.1	1
1972	6.2	3
1972	7.0	22
1972	7.1	6
1972	7.2	3
1972	8.0	12
1972	8.1	2
1972	8.2	3
1972	9.0	41
1972	9.1	1
1972	10.0	3
1973	0.0	1
1973	0.1	2
1973	0.2	2
1973	1.2	5
1973	2.0	3
1973	2.1	3
1973	2.2	4
1973	3.0	2
1973	3.1	3
1973	4.0	7
1973	4.1	1
1973	4.2	5
1973	5.0	13
1973	5.1	3
1973	5.2	3
1973	6.0	16
1973	6.1	7
1973	6.2	2
1973	7.0	25
1973	7.1	3
1973	7.2	4
1973	8.0	12
1973	8.1	3
1973	8.2	2
1973	9.0	38
1973	9.1	1
1973	10.0	1
1973	11.0	2
1974	0.2	1
1974	1.0	2
1974	1.2	3
1974	2.0	2
1974	2.1	2
1974	3.0	5
1974	3.1	1
1974	4.0	7
1974	4.1	2
1974	4.2	2
1974	5.0	8
1974	5.1	6
1974	5.2	4
1974	6.0	20
1974	6.1	6
1974	6.2	5
1974	7.0	19
1974	7.1	8
1974	8.0	17
1974	8.1	4
1974	8.2	3
1974	9.0	33
1974	10.0	1
1974	11.0	1
1975	0.0	1
1975	0.1	2
1975	0.2	2
1975	1.1	1
1975	1.2	4
1975	2.0	1
1975	2.2	3
1975	3.0	2
1975	3.1	1
1975	4.0	6
1975	4.1	3
1975	4.2	2
1975	5.0	11
1975	5.1	10
1975	5.2	4
1975	6.0	23
1975	6.1	7
1975	6.2	6
1975	7.0	19
1975	7.1	10
1975	7.2	2
1975	8.0	11
1975	8.1	1
1975	8.2	1
1975	9.0	28
1975	10.0	1
1976	0.1	1
1976	0.2	2
1976	1.0	1
1976	1.1	2
1976	1.2	3
1976	2.0	3
1976	2.1	1
1976	3.0	3
1976	3.1	3
1976	3.2	4
1976	4.0	7
1976	4.1	1
1976	4.2	2
1976	5.0	10
1976	5.1	1
1976	5.2	5
1976	6.0	23
1976	6.1	3
1976	6.2	4
1976	7.0	18
1976	7.1	3
1976	7.2	4
1976	8.0	14
1976	8.1	5
1976	9.0	36
1976	10.0	3
1977	0.1	1
1977	1.0	1
1977	1.1	1
1977	1.2	1
1977	2.0	1
1977	2.1	2
1977	2.2	4
1977	3.0	2
1977	3.1	2
1977	3.2	2
1977	4.0	7
1977	4.1	3
1977	4.2	3
1977	5.0	12
1977	5.1	4
1977	5.2	7
1977	6.0	13
1977	6.1	9
1977	6.2	10
1977	7.0	24
1977	7.1	4
1977	7.2	4
1977	8.0	10
1977	8.1	3
1977	9.0	31
1977	10.0	1
1978	0.1	1
1978	1.0	1
1978	1.1	1
1978	1.2	1
1978	2.0	1
1978	2.1	3
1978	2.2	1
1978	3.0	4
1978	3.1	6
1978	3.2	1
1978	4.0	6
1978	4.1	5
1978	4.2	1
1978	5.0	14
1978	5.1	3
1978	5.2	1
1978	6.0	10
1978	6.1	7
1978	6.2	6
1978	7.0	21
1978	7.1	5
1978	7.2	6
1978	8.0	22
1978	8.1	3
1978	8.2	2
1978	9.0	26
1978	9.1	1
1978	10.0	2
1978	11.0	1
1979	0.1	2
1979	0.2	2
1979	1.1	2
1979	2.0	1
1979	2.1	2
1979	2.2	2
1979	3.0	5
1979	3.1	3
1979	3.2	1
1979	4.0	7
1979	4.1	1
1979	4.2	2
1979	5.0	16
1979	5.1	5
1979	5.2	1
1979	6.0	15
1979	6.1	10
1979	6.2	8
1979	7.0	20
1979	7.1	5
1979	7.2	4
1979	8.0	13
1979	8.1	2
1979	8.2	1
1979	9.0	33
1980	0.1	1
1980	1.0	1
1980	1.1	2
1980	1.2	2
1980	2.0	1
1980	2.1	2
1980	3.0	2
1980	3.1	3
1980	4.0	4
1980	4.1	4
1980	4.2	4
1980	5.0	14
1980	5.1	3
1980	5.2	3
1980	6.0	22
1980	6.1	7
1980	6.2	5
1980	7.0	30
1980	7.1	3
1980	7.2	5
1980	8.0	16
1980	8.1	6
1980	8.2	2
1980	9.0	19
1980	10.0	1
1981	0.1	1
1981	1.2	1
1981	2.0	3
1981	2.1	1
1981	2.2	2
1981	3.0	1
1981	3.2	1
1981	4.0	1
1981	4.1	7
1981	4.2	2
1981	5.0	12
1981	5.1	4
1981	5.2	3
1981	6.0	10
1981	6.1	5
1981	6.2	2
1981	7.0	13
1981	7.1	2
1981	7.2	1
1981	8.0	12
1981	8.2	1
1981	9.0	20
1982	0.2	1
1982	1.2	3
1982	2.0	2
1982	2.1	1
1982	2.2	2
1982	3.0	3
1982	3.1	2
1982	3.2	1
1982	4.0	6
1982	4.1	2
1982	4.2	2
1982	5.0	15
1982	5.1	9
1982	5.2	3
1982	6.0	25
1982	6.1	5
1982	6.2	8
1982	7.0	22
1982	7.1	3
1982	7.2	2
1982	8.0	11
1982	8.1	2
1982	8.2	1
1982	9.0	30
1982	9.2	1
1983	0.2	1
1983	1.0	1
1983	1.1	3
1983	1.2	1
1983	2.0	1
1983	2.1	4
1983	2.2	1
1983	3.0	1
1983	3.2	3
1983	4.0	3
1983	4.1	5
1983	4.2	4
1983	5.0	7
1983	5.1	3
1983	5.2	4
1983	6.0	28
1983	6.1	6
1983	6.2	3
1983	7.0	23
1983	7.1	2
1983	7.2	6
1983	8.0	21
1983	8.1	5
1983	8.2	3
1983	9.0	23
1984	1.1	1
1984	2.0	1
1984	2.1	1
1984	2.2	3
1984	3.0	2
1984	3.1	5
1984	3.2	3
1984	4.0	6
1984	4.1	4
1984	4.2	3
1984	5.0	11
1984	5.1	13
1984	5.2	3
1984	6.0	21
1984	6.1	8
1984	6.2	6
1984	7.0	28
1984	7.1	4
1984	7.2	2
1984	8.0	18
1984	8.1	2
1984	8.2	1
1984	9.0	15
1984	9.1	1
1985	0.1	1
1985	0.2	2
1985	1.0	1
1985	1.1	2
1985	1.2	1
1985	2.0	1
1985	2.1	1
1985	2.2	1
1985	3.0	3
1985	3.1	5
1985	3.2	1
1985	4.0	8
1985	4.1	2
1985	4.2	4
1985	5.0	19
1985	5.1	6
1985	5.2	4
1985	6.0	22
1985	6.1	3
1985	6.2	6
1985	7.0	28
1985	7.1	5
1985	8.0	9
1985	8.1	1
1985	8.2	3
1985	9.0	20
1985	10.0	2
1985	11.0	1
1986	0.0	1
1986	1.0	2
1986	1.2	1
1986	2.1	4
1986	2.2	2
1986	3.0	7
1986	3.1	1
1986	3.2	5
1986	4.0	7
1986	4.1	4
1986	4.2	6
1986	5.0	30
1986	5.1	4
1986	5.2	1
1986	6.0	20
1986	6.1	6
1986	6.2	7
1986	7.0	29
1986	7.1	2
1986	7.2	3
1986	8.0	10
1986	8.1	3
1986	8.2	1
1986	9.0	18
1986	10.0	1
1987	0.1	1
1987	0.2	2
1987	1.0	3
1987	1.1	1
1987	1.2	3
1987	2.0	4
1987	2.1	2
1987	2.2	1
1987	3.0	4
1987	3.1	1
1987	3.2	6
1987	4.0	7
1987	4.2	8
1987	5.0	17
1987	5.1	7
1987	5.2	6
1987	6.0	29
1987	6.1	3
1987	6.2	7
1987	7.0	26
1987	7.1	1
1987	7.2	2
1987	8.0	7
1987	8.1	2
1987	8.2	1
1987	9.0	11
1988	0.1	1
1988	1.2	2
1988	2.0	4
1988	2.2	1
1988	3.0	1
1988	3.1	3
1988	4.0	6
1988	4.1	6
1988	4.2	1
1988	5.0	17
1988	5.1	3
1988	5.2	3
1988	6.0	31
1988	6.1	11
1988	6.2	7
1988	7.0	29
1988	7.1	2
1988	7.2	2
1988	8.0	9
1988	8.1	4
1988	8.2	8
1988	9.0	16
1989	0.2	1
1989	1.0	2
1989	1.1	2
1989	2.0	1
1989	2.1	4
1989	2.2	3
1989	3.0	5
1989	3.1	1
1989	3.2	4
1989	4.0	11
1989	4.1	2
1989	4.2	6
1989	5.0	25
1989	5.1	6
1989	5.2	5
1989	6.0	19
1989	6.1	3
1989	6.2	4
1989	7.0	18
1989	7.1	5
1989	7.2	3
1989	8.0	15
1989	8.1	1
1989	8.2	5
1989	9.0	11
1990	0.1	1
1990	1.1	1
1990	1.2	1
1990	2.0	2
1990	2.1	1
1990	2.2	1
1990	3.0	3
1990	3.1	1
1990	3.2	4
1990	4.0	11
1990	4.1	3
1990	4.2	4
1990	5.0	28
1990	5.1	9
1990	5.2	6
1990	6.0	20
1990	6.1	7
1990	6.2	3
1990	7.0	28
1990	7.1	4
1990	7.2	6
1990	8.0	9
1990	8.2	1
1990	9.0	8
1991	0.0	1
1991	0.1	1
1991	1.0	1
1991	1.1	1
1991	1.2	2
1991	2.1	3
1991	2.2	4
1991	3.0	5
1991	3.1	4
1991	3.2	2
1991	4.0	4
1991	4.1	3
1991	4.2	1
1991	5.0	20
1991	5.1	4
1991	6.0	27
1991	6.1	7
1991	6.2	9
1991	7.0	21
1991	7.1	4
1991	7.2	1
1991	8.0	13
1991	8.1	3
1991	8.2	1
1991	9.0	17
1992	1.1	1
1992	2.0	1
1992	2.2	2
1992	3.0	6
1992	3.1	1
1992	3.2	5
1992	4.0	8
1992	4.1	4
1992	4.2	1
1992	5.0	20
1992	5.1	3
1992	5.2	6
1992	6.0	24
1992	6.1	1
1992	6.2	5
1992	7.0	34
1992	7.1	6
1992	8.0	12
1992	8.1	2
1992	8.2	1
1992	9.0	19
1993	1.1	1
1993	1.2	1
1993	2.0	1
1993	3.0	3
1993	3.2	5
1993	4.0	4
1993	4.1	4
1993	4.2	1
1993	5.0	17
1993	5.1	4
1993	5.2	7
1993	6.0	28
1993	6.1	3
1993	6.2	3
1993	7.0	26
1993	7.1	4
1993	7.2	5
1993	8.0	18
1993	8.1	1
1993	8.2	3
1993	9.0	23
1994	1.0	1
1994	1.2	1
1994	2.0	1
1994	2.1	2
1994	2.2	2
1994	3.0	3
1994	3.1	1
1994	3.2	3
1994	4.0	6
1994	4.1	3
1994	4.2	4
1994	5.0	5
1994	5.1	3
1994	5.2	4
1994	6.0	11
1994	6.1	3
1994	6.2	6
1994	7.0	26
1994	7.1	6
1994	7.2	2
1994	8.0	12
1994	8.1	1
1994	8.2	1
1994	9.0	6
1995	0.1	1
1995	1.0	1
1995	1.2	1
1995	2.0	2
1995	2.1	2
1995	2.2	2
1995	3.0	2
1995	3.1	1
1995	4.0	8
1995	4.1	4
1995	4.2	3
1995	5.0	20
1995	5.1	6
1995	5.2	2
1995	6.0	23
1995	6.1	9
1995	6.2	2
1995	7.0	26
1995	7.1	5
1995	7.2	2
1995	8.0	8
1995	8.1	1
1995	9.0	13
1996	0.2	1
1996	2.0	4
1996	2.1	1
1996	2.2	1
1996	3.0	2
1996	3.1	1
1996	3.2	1
1996	4.0	7
1996	4.1	5
1996	4.2	3
1996	5.0	21
1996	5.1	8
1996	5.2	3
1996	6.0	27
1996	6.1	8
1996	6.2	8
1996	7.0	26
1996	7.1	5
1996	7.2	4
1996	8.0	12
1996	8.2	2
1996	9.0	12
1997	1.1	1
1997	2.0	2
1997	2.1	3
1997	2.2	2
1997	3.0	2
1997	3.1	1
1997	3.2	2
1997	4.0	5
1997	4.1	5
1997	4.2	1
1997	5.0	21
1997	5.1	10
1997	5.2	4
1997	6.0	24
1997	6.1	7
1997	6.2	6
1997	7.0	35
1997	7.1	7
1997	7.2	1
1997	8.0	14
1997	8.1	1
1997	8.2	1
1997	9.0	7
1998	0.0	1
1998	2.1	1
1998	3.0	2
1998	3.1	1
1998	3.2	1
1998	4.0	7
1998	4.1	3
1998	4.2	1
1998	5.0	22
1998	5.1	6
1998	5.2	9
1998	6.0	29
1998	6.1	11
1998	6.2	11
1998	7.0	30
1998	7.1	1
1998	8.0	18
1998	9.0	8
1999	1.1	1
1999	2.0	2
1999	2.2	5
1999	3.0	4
1999	3.1	2
1999	3.2	5
1999	4.0	6
1999	4.1	6
1999	4.2	6
1999	5.0	24
1999	5.1	5
1999	5.2	8
1999	6.0	28
1999	6.1	9
1999	6.2	5
1999	7.0	30
1999	7.1	8
1999	7.2	1
1999	8.0	13
1999	8.1	1
1999	8.2	2
1999	9.0	2
2000	0.2	1
2000	1.0	1
2000	1.1	1
2000	2.0	2
2000	2.1	1
2000	2.2	3
2000	3.0	5
2000	3.1	2
2000	3.2	5
2000	4.0	10
2000	4.1	3
2000	4.2	2
2000	5.0	22
2000	5.1	7
2000	5.2	6
2000	6.0	32
2000	6.1	7
2000	6.2	7
2000	7.0	34
2000	7.1	3
2000	7.2	3
2000	8.0	11
2000	8.2	1
2000	9.0	7
2001	0.0	2
2001	2.0	2
2001	2.2	1
2001	3.0	1
2001	3.1	3
2001	4.0	8
2001	4.1	3
2001	4.2	1
2001	5.0	16
2001	5.1	5
2001	5.2	13
2001	6.0	42
2001	6.1	8
2001	6.2	4
2001	7.0	31
2001	7.1	7
2001	7.2	1
2001	8.0	8
2001	8.2	1
2001	9.0	5
2002	0.2	1
2002	1.0	1
2002	2.0	3
2002	2.1	1
2002	3.0	3
2002	3.1	2
2002	3.2	3
2002	4.0	8
2002	4.1	5
2002	4.2	4
2002	5.0	17
2002	5.1	3
2002	5.2	4
2002	6.0	39
2002	6.1	10
2002	6.2	7
2002	7.0	31
2002	7.1	5
2002	7.2	1
2002	8.0	7
2002	8.1	1
2002	9.0	5
2003	1.1	1
2003	2.1	1
2003	2.2	1
2003	3.0	2
2003	3.1	2
2003	3.2	2
2003	4.0	2
2003	4.1	1
2003	4.2	3
2003	5.0	18
2003	5.1	5
2003	5.2	5
2003	6.0	44
2003	6.1	7
2003	6.2	6
2003	7.0	36
2003	7.1	4
2003	7.2	1
2003	8.0	13
2003	8.2	1
2003	9.0	6
2004	0.1	1
2004	1.0	1
2004	1.1	1
2004	2.1	3
2004	2.2	3
2004	3.0	3
2004	3.1	2
2004	3.2	1
2004	4.0	8
2004	4.1	3
2004	4.2	4
2004	5.0	22
2004	5.1	9
2004	5.2	7
2004	6.0	27
2004	6.1	4
2004	6.2	5
2004	7.0	40
2004	7.2	6
2004	8.0	6
2004	8.1	1
2004	8.2	1
2004	9.0	4
2005	1.1	1
2005	2.0	2
2005	3.0	5
2005	3.1	1
2005	3.2	3
2005	4.0	7
2005	4.1	5
2005	4.2	2
2005	5.0	11
2005	5.1	10
2005	5.2	5
2005	6.0	30
2005	6.1	7
2005	6.2	7
2005	7.0	42
2005	7.1	1
2005	7.2	3
2005	8.0	15
2005	8.1	1
2005	9.0	4
2006	1.0	1
2006	1.1	2
2006	1.2	2
2006	2.0	3
2006	2.2	1
2006	3.0	2
2006	3.1	3
2006	3.2	2
2006	4.0	14
2006	4.1	5
2006	4.2	3
2006	5.0	24
2006	5.1	6
2006	5.2	9
2006	6.0	40
2006	6.1	3
2006	6.2	2
2006	7.0	22
2006	7.1	2
2006	7.2	3
2006	8.0	16
2006	8.1	2
2006	9.0	5
2007	4.0	1
2007	4.2	1
2007	5.0	2
2007	5.1	2
2007	5.2	2
2007	6.0	6
2007	6.2	1
2007	7.0	4
2007	8.0	1

[Guest iramets]

I got carpal tunnel, scrolling.

[Guest iramets]

I'm trying to figure out how you quantify "prefers finesse pitchers to power pitchers." The Mets, according to my prejudices, have a classic finesse staff, giving most of their innings to the likes of Glavine, Trax, and Pedro, old guys who know what they're doing and don't overpower you with 95+ MPH stuff.

But they have had an above-league average K total both of Willie's seasons, so obviously that's not a good measure by itself. Maybe BB totals? K/BB ratio? Am I just wrong in thinking of this as a finesse-oriented rotation?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Finesse pitchers can strike peoples out too.

[Guest iramets]

Yes, of course. But not so many as power pitchers. Or so I thought.

So what separates the finesse guys from the power guys? How do tell them apart, other than just watching them?

[Guest iramets]

A quick and dirty scan of the 2006 data doesn't turn up a pronounced tendancy, by Yancy's suggested method, of confirming that Willlie likes to leave his starter in to finish innings: We had starters coming out of atfter an even inning (X.0, Y.0. etc.)128 times, the oppos had it 127 times.

[Guest iramets]

Having said my screed about Willie's moral fiber (for now) and having had it so well received, I thought I'd return to the more objective evaluation.

Two things about pitchers: 1) what does "How Long Would He Stay with a Starting Pitcher Who Was Struggling?" mean? How long in a game, or how far into a season? I think it must mean the latter, because the question "Did He Stay with His Starters, or Go to the Bullpen Quickly?" seems to cover the first one.

I think the answer to "How Far Into a Season Would He Stay with a Starting Pitcher Who Was Struggling?" has to be depend on the starter's contract, no? He gives Lima or Pelfrey a couple to a half dozen chances, then jerks the plug on him, but Glavine or other established veterans with LT contracts he's prepared to go down with the ship for, no? Likewise Benson--he had the big contract and he stayed in rotation when he struggled. I'm trying to think of starters other than Glavine who had big contracts and pitched suckily for protracted periods, and can't come up with too much. Pedro had a few bad outings in a row but not many last year and was hurt besides. Trax may be the best answer--seems to me that Willie soured on Trax as he came to the tail end of his contract--is this right?

Would it be correct to say that length of contract and salary determines Willie's commitment to his starting pitchers more than any other factor? Can someone disprove this hypothesis?

2)I think (to judge from the responses he gives in his Guide to Managers book) that James considers high-K combined with high-BB staffs to be "power" staffs, composed of pitchers who tend not to put the ball in play a lot. I wonder if Veros McCracken's work would. distinguish power staffs from finesse staffs. Anyone familiar with mcCracken? Does this make sense--that a high-K, high-BB will not have a lot of balls in play?

[Guest iramets]

So far this season--slightly above league average in pitchers' k and pitchers' BBs.

Last year, right at league average in BB/G, above-league in K (3.3 in a 3.3 NL in BB, 7.1 in 6.6 NL in K)

2005, just below league average in BB/G, just below league in K (3.0 in a 3.3 NL in BB, 6.2 in a 6.4 NL in K)

So the trend, if this is a trend, is that Willie increasingly favors a staff that uses power pitchers. Presumably the longer he manages the less his staff is composed of "What was there when he got there" and more of "What he likes a staff to do."

[Guest iramets]

I've been thinking about the Billy Martin influence, since Martin is a role model for piss-poor relations with the press--lying to them, denying his lies, changing his story, accusing them of inventing quotes, taking swings at them, etc. . (Martin the dead manager, not Martin the poster, though they share the same level of disrespect for the media.) Willie grew up in a paranoiac locker-room, with Martin uniting his team with an us-against-reporters, us-against-the-umps mentality. Willie's contemptuous treatment of the press seems aligned with Martin, though his reluctance to get thrown out of games certainly differs from the Martin model. But this is subjective stuff, and I'm in the minority here, so maybe I should leave this as my own thoughts on Martin's influence on Willie's thinking and let others on The CPF figure out who was an influence on his style of managing.