Guest holychicken Guests Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 Nymr83 wrote:because its easier to drive in a runner on third than it is to drive in yourself.Still, he made an incredibly smart play. He could have swung for the fences and driven himself in as well, but he looked at a situation and took advantage of a weakness in the defense to WIN the game.I am not down-playing when Easley did, I gave them equal points (but I would argue that giving him slightly more points makes sense), but it was a smart and perfectly excuted play to win a game.Here is the graph, BTW.http://www.fangraphs.com/wins.aspx?date=2007-04-24&team=Mets&dh=0&season=200736.2% (endy swing in chance) to 48.8% (easley swing in chance).(edit)I changed my chavez and easley scores to more line up with the percentages here, however, they still only exhibit a .5 difference.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 I'm not sure what's so incredibly smart about not swinging for the fences when the winning run is on third. Everybody knew a single was all that was needed.
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 Johnny Dickshot wrote:I adjusted my Endy vote up slightly but still 300% below my man Damion.Someone please find Win Expectancy chartIf I plugged in the numbers right - when Easley came to bat the Win Expectancy (according to the Win Expectancy website) was:games: 906 home won: 38 expectancy: 0.042 When Endy came up the WE was:games: 389 home won: 265 expectancy: 0.681
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 4% to 68%. That's a spicy meatball.
Guest holychicken Guests Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 Johnny Dickshot wrote:4% to 68%. That's a spicy meatball.He didn't increase it from 4% to 68%, he increased it from 4% to 52%. Still huge, no doubt, but certainly not 3 times, let alone 6 times, endy's 68-100% increase. (although, the WPA for the site I gave gives him 36%, not 32% and Easley about the same)
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 The numbers are hard to ignore but I am more of a Barry Manilow type and I give Endy mucho credit for his creativity.That being said - I'll edit my votes.
Guest holychicken Guests Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 Edgy DC wrote:I'm not sure what's so incredibly smart about not swinging for the fences when the winning run is on third. Everybody knew a single was all that was needed.But he didn't just try to get a single. What he did was see a weakness in the defense and exploit it with a perfectly executed bunt. THAT is what I think was the smart move.Even a well hit ball that would be nothing more than a single can turn into an out if it is hit to the wrong place.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2007 Author Posted April 25, 2007 I think those W% things can be deceiving sometimes. If Endy gets out the Mets still have a better than 50% chance to win, if Easley gets out you can put an L in the books right then and there.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 holychicken wrote:But he didn't just try to get a single. What he did was see a weakness in the defense and exploit it with a perfectly executed bunt. THAT is what I think was the smart move.Sure, but above you're praising not swinging for the fences.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted April 26, 2007 Posted April 26, 2007 Voting for Tuesday night's 12-inning win will close on Friday:http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?t=6184
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2007 Posted April 28, 2007 Voting for Wednesday afternoon's loss to Florida will close some time this weekend:http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?t=6190
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2007 Posted April 28, 2007 Oops. Colorado.All 1993 expansion teams look alike to me.
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2007 Posted April 28, 2007 All those flourescent colors in the uniform.Topographically though I can't imagine two states more different that Colorado and Florida, at least elevation wise.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted April 29, 2007 Author Posted April 29, 2007 I gave Franco a half point today for the great defensive play on the bunt, figured i'd mention it here for any voters who didnt see the game beacuse it won't be in the boxscore,
Guest Iubitul Guests Posted April 29, 2007 Posted April 29, 2007 I would give Heilman negative points for the blood pressure spike he gave me if the rules allowed for it.
Guest GYC Guests Posted April 29, 2007 Posted April 29, 2007 Nymr83 wrote:I gave Franco a half point today for the great defensive play on the bunt, figured i'd mention it here for any voters who didnt see the game beacuse it won't be in the boxscore,Good call. I was watching and totally forgot about it. I'll have to edit my vote later. I'm probably going to take Heilman's 0.10 points away, just because he drives me absolutely crazy nowadays. What happened to you, Aaron?
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted April 29, 2007 Author Posted April 29, 2007 I gave Aaron nothing, all he did was come in and cause alot of trouble which Schoenweis got him out of.edit- also, i'm still annoyed at him for not being jewish with a name like that.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted April 29, 2007 Posted April 29, 2007 You probably would have hated Elio Chacon then.I'm mad at Aaron Heilman for not being Italian-American, born in Brooklyn, and raised on Long Island.But I'll get over it.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted April 29, 2007 Author Posted April 29, 2007 I'd hardly consider Chacon a jewish name, and Aaron hardly sounds italian
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted April 29, 2007 Posted April 29, 2007 In the Schaefer thread for today's 1-0 victory over the Nationals, Frayed Knot cast the following ballot:Heilman - 5.25 Beltran - 2.5 Franco - 0.5 Wagner - 1.0 Schoeneweis - 0.5 Reyes - 0.25I suspect that Heilman has snuck in and stolen Maine's well deserved beer. I post this here because Yancy does not like any actual discussion in the voting thread, since it complicates tallying the votes up when the polls close.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Voting for all three of the weekend games at RFK will close on Wednesday morning.Friday's loss: http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?t=6219Saturday's win: http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?t=6225Sunday's win: http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?t=6230And on Thursday, when voting for tonight's game closes, I'll be announcing the winner of the Schaefer Mets Player of the Month award for April 2007.Tell all your friends!
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 Has voter participation been up this early season?.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 It's not as high as it was at the beginning of last season, but it's higher than at the end of last year, when we were down to 7 faithful voters.We're already seeing a slight dropoff in 2007 though. We're averaging about two fewer voters per game in the second half of April as opposed to the first half. But we're still doing better than the 7 that 2006 ended with.4/1/2007 204/3/2007 204/4/2007 184/6/2007 154/7/2007 134/8/2007 134/9/2007 164/11/2007 134/12/2007 164/13/2007 124/14/2007 114/17/2007 134/18/2007 144/19/2007 144/20/2007 124/21/2007 144/22/2007 124/23/2007 154/24/2007 174/25/2007 11
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 I've made sure to vote for every game.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted May 1, 2007 Author Posted May 1, 2007 You will all be happy to know that David Wright no longerhas the embarassment of being lower than Joe Smith in my season rankings. Now lets see if he can pass the mighty .250 hitter Paul Loduca.
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 Maybe you're not giving Wright enough credit. I just tallied up my points for April and I have Wright tied for 5th which seems about right since he started off the season hitting well and has only slumped the last 10 days or so.Reyes 31.5Beltran 22Green 21.5Alou 18Hernandez 13Wright 13Delgado 12Maine 12Valentin 12Glavine 9.5Perez 9.5Smith 7.75Castro 6.5LoDuca 6.5Schoeneweis 6Sele 5.5Chavez 5Easley 4Franco 4Heilman 3.5Feliciano 2.75Wagner 2.5Burgos 2Newhan 1Pelfrey 0.5
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted May 1, 2007 Author Posted May 1, 2007 i've got 11.5 for Wright, i've also got 28.5 for Beltran and only 24.5 for Reyes whom you are all madly in man-love with, Greena nd Alou both have 16 and change, Orlando has 18 while Maine leads all my pitchers with 20.5
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