4/3/2007 Schaefer Commentary

[Elster88]

Ok here's my plan:
El Duque = 1 run through 7 with a little less run support.
Glavine = 1 run through 6.
I'm going to give El Duque more than Glavine.

How are you going to do it?

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Hernandez gets extra points for the two RBI too.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

El Duque deserves more anyway because of his 2 RBIs.

(Yeah, what he said)

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Special delivery for Mr. Hernandez!

[metirish]

I gave Glavine 4,I would think it's 5 for OHernandez....

Elster,will you be expecting an explanation for points given every game?..

[Elster88]

metirish wrote: I gave Glavine 4,I would think it's 5 for OHernandez.... Elster,will you be expecting an explanation for points given every game?..

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

I disapprove of this fate-tempting with Wagner still to arrive.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Oh yee of little faith. Wagner laughed in the face of the Cardinals.

[Elster88]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: I disapprove of this fate-tempting with Wagner still to arrive.

I thought about that but didn't figure I was tempting fate since Dookie's day already in the books.

[metsmarathon]

the win means nothing?

[Gwreck]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: I disapprove of this fate-tempting with Wagner still to arrive.

True. I mean, you're giving out 4 or 5 or 6 points already -- what if Pujols tied that game up and we had to go to extras? C'mon. I'd have to hold all of you responsible.

Seriously, I don't see how Hernandez can't get 6 for this game. The pitching wasn't necessarily a "6" performance on its face but when you add 2-3 and 2 RBI I find it tough to give him anything else.

[metsmarathon]

my super-complicated uber formula almost gave him a 6. actually, about the only way he didnt get it was because there were some sip-worthy players who came in to releive him.

there's only 10 points to go around, afterall.

[nymr83]

metsmarathon wrote: the win means nothing?

not to me. since we're giving them team 10 points win or lose why should i care what pitcher happened to be in there when the Mets scored the go-ahead runs?

[metsmarathon]

do you care what the score is when a hitter drives in runs?

if so, wouldn't you also care what the score is when a pitcher allows runs?

[Guest GYC]

The fact that people aren't giving Hernandez a full 6 is mind-boggling. He went 7 innings, allowing 1 run, went 2-for-3 with 2 RBIs to widen the gap, picked a runner off, and was a part of 2 double plays.

[Guest Edgy DC]

What should I give for a 1-0 ten-inning no-hitter?

[metirish]

This year I am going to try and score things a bit tougher,while Hernandez was great my loose criteria for giving 6 full points would be the starter going eight innings at least,if Hernandez had gone eight and left with a 4-1 lead then I give him six.

[Guest GYC]

Yes, a 1-0 10-inning no hitter is a 6. But if you're judging the best possible performances to a full 6 points, then you should judge position players the same as well. Very few games would add up to 10, then, too.

[Guest GYC]

metirish wrote: This year I am going to try and score things a bit tougher,while Hernandez was great my loose criteria for giving 6 full points would be the starter going eight innings at least,if Hernandez had gone eight and left with a 4-1 lead then I give him six.

I agree. I gave Glavine 3.75 for 1 run through 6-innings. If I was giving Hernandez points off pitching alone, it would have been around a 4.5 or so. But he also went 2 for 3 and drove in 2 runs, picked a runner off, and was a part of two double plays, one which cleared the bases of runners before Pujols came up and doubled.

[Guest Edgy DC]

GYC wrote: Yes, a 1-0 10-inning no hitter is a 6. But if you're judging the best possible performances to a full 6 points, then you should judge position players the same as well. Very few games would add up to 10, then, too.

I always judge the starting pitcher first, given him a score for a neutral sitation, and I gave him a 5.4 --- which may be miserly, but that's what I came up with. I then judge everybody else relative to the starting pitcher. I add up the total points which can be over ten for a victory, or maybe under ten for a loss. It can be well over 10 for a blowout.

I figure out which divisor will reduce or increase my total to ten and I divide all the scores by that.

[metirish]

I gave Heilman one point and I gave Wagner one point although Heilman only faced one batter but that was the game right there,still Wagner got throught his inning just fine,looking at my scoring I should not have given Schoeneweis one full point.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

It's okay to edit your vote if you want to, Irish. Voting for Tuesday night's game will remain open until Friday morning.

[Guest holychicken]

Hernandez looked good for 6 innings, Glavine really only looked good for 3. Hernandez got a lot lesshelp from teh defense. So for the pitching alone, I gave him more points. 2 RBIs just added to that.

[metirish]

Should be fun scoring this tonight.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I'm thinking that all my points will go to three guys: Reyes, Beltran, and Maine.

[nymr83]

I'm basing my points on who helped out before the game got out of hand. that means 5 points for Maine (who went 5 scoreless before the offense even got involved), 1 for beltran who started the scoring, 1 for green making it 3-0, with 3 points left i'll give 1 to reyes for his homer and overall good number (turning the score from 7-0 to 9-0 isn't point worth), another to beltran for his great game, and the final point to loduca because i can't ignore 3 hits and walk in 5 plate appearences.

[nymr83]

Elster, lets retitle this "voting commentary" without the date, i'd hate to see a new one every day

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Nymr - "Elster, lets retitle this "voting commentary" without the date, i'd hate to see a new one every day"

I agee. This should become the All-Purpose Schaeffer Voting Commentary thread.

[metsmarathon]

so... we're going with a "vote the pitcher, and to the hitters go the scraps" strategy here?

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I don't object to a new discussion thread for each game. I actually think it's a pretty good idea, but either way works for me.

As Namor mentioned in the April 4 voting thread, attgig's vote is invalid and will be rejected unless edited.