NYC's Weak Sisters, 2007 (part II)

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: ="Centerfield"]I just heard the Waldman clip. Amazing. OK, I GOTTA hear this. Is it online anywhere?

Oh.
My.
Goodness.

I can only imagine the internal PA announcement after that...."Attention maintence, clean-up in the radio booth. Spill in the radio booth. Bring the wet-vac."

[Frayed Knot]

Nymr83 wrote: its been my experience that the yankees get the backpage 80-90% of the time no matter what

I ordinarily dismiss talk like this as fans talking about how the media is skewed against their team sounds too childish to my ears.
But in the case of the Daily News there is some truth to it. First of all the Yanx have a mutual promotion deal with the paper, including having a DN writer in the radio booth for an inning each game. Plus you have Torre getting paid to plug the paper. And then there's a stable of long-time NYY writers: Madden, Pepe, Bondy, who are much more likely to write about the Bronx team than the one in Queens.

I don't pick up that vibe with any of the other local papers.

[nymr83]

do you walk by a news stand on your way to work? keep track of the backpage for a month straight or so and let me know what you find. i read the post daily and its almost as bad, 75% yankees at least

[Guest Edgy DC]

seawolf17 wrote: http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/2007/05/suzyn_waldman_h.html

Sounds drunk. Stupid drunk.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

FK, do you know if the Mets have a similar promotion type dealie with the News now? I'd assume based on SNY's slightly annoying, entirely irrelevant Daily News Live! panel show that they've got something of the like.

[Frayed Knot]

Even with 'Daily News Live' - which is a joint production between the paper and SNY (a semi-seperate entity from the Mets) - there's not the same level of mutual cross-promotion that the DN & the NYY have had for many years now.
The Mets actually had one of those with Newsday back in the Torborg era but that got washed away fairly quickly in a pool of bleach.

In a perfect world, deals like this shouldn't exist since the paper is paid to cover the team not get into bed with it. It's always fun when a story contradicts what the manager claims he said (or something along those lines) which either tempts the manager to call the paper he's paid to promote a bunch of liars, or the paper to retract a story they're supposedly paid to uncover because it's about a guy who promotes their product on a daily basis.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

I don't necessarily think that a nice but rather unspectacular Met win that everyone with an interest already knows about is the bigger story, necessarily, than an analysis peice addressing the real possibility the team with the highest payroll and highest attendence figures in the history of baseball is looking at a stretch of games that could conceivably cost them the playoffs for the first time in a deacde.

If the Mets had come back from 4-0 after 8 innings instead of 2, or from 14-0, then maybe we're looking at a different back page.

Looks like the Mets will get that back page tomorrow anyway, unless something interesting happened to the Nets (I have no idea and don't care myself).

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Rookie John Danks outpitches Mussina as MFYs lose the first of a d-n DH at Comiskey.

The DH btw, may affect their rotation vs. us this weekend, necessitating a recall of Chase Wright (or somneone else) from the minors in place of Mussina Sunday.

Contreras v. Wang in Game 2 tonnite

[nymr83]

I'd love to face Chase Wright on Sunday, hopefully alread having taken 2 games.

[nymr83]

its 4-0 White Sox in the 5th, the yankee starter DeSalvo couldn't even go 4 innings, the bullpen will be tired tommorow

edit- Torre led off Abreu today in his attempt to shake things up. looks more to me like "panic move" kinda like battingArod 7th or 8th in the playoffs last year.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Bosox sweep.

We could really bury these guys this weekend.

[Guest sharpie]

'Specially if the Sox take care of the Bravos.

[metirish]

9.5 games behind the Sox....lets bury the wankers.

[Frayed Knot]

sharpie wrote: 'Specially if the Sox take care of the Bravos.

Not off to a good start though.

- BoSox place Josh Beckett on the DL due to a piece of skin coming off his hand during his last start. He'll miss his turn vs the Braves this weekend and at least one more.

- Meanwhile, Smoltz painfully dislocated a finger on his pitching hand during his last start. He's fine and ready to go.

[Guest cooby]

It just fell off?

[Guest iramets]

It was like a big blister. The dead skin falls off, right?

[Willets Point]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Bosox sweep. We could really bury these guys this weekend.

Hubris, people, hubris!

Now the Yanks are probably going to go 5-1 against the Mets.

[Benjamin Grimm]

cooby wrote: It just fell off?

I hope it's not leprosy.

[metirish]

For fecks sake,to read some today in the papers not only might Clippard have saved Torre's job but the MFY season to boot,they have twelve games left against the Red Sox,realistically how many of those games would they need to win,nine ,ten?...I mean if the Sox don't fall apart then I would think the MFY would need a miracle.

[Frayed Knot]

It's [u:6a0fd511b1]MAY[/u:6a0fd511b1]

This race is far from over.

[metirish]

Frayed Knot wrote: It's MAY This race is far from over.

Well yeah,I shouldn't jinx this either....

[Willets Point]

The 1951 Giants were 13.5 games back in August.

[Frayed Knot]

Jinxes ain't got nuthin' to do with it.

They gained 10 games on the BoSox in just one month last year:
July 21 = 3.5 back ----->>>>> Aug 21 = 6.5 ahead

Between their high-scoring lineup and a (possible) rotation in a month or so of Mussina, Pettitte, Wang, Clemens & Hughes they certainly have the ability to make up a similar 10 games over the next 4 months.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Don't forget this Clip Art dude.

[Frayed Knot]

And, in case you think comebacks of this magnitude are one in a million shots, or that they only happen to Yanx/BoSox, we've got examples from other teams in very recent history who were right about where the Yanx are now and at a similar point in the season:

- 2006 Twins: 17 - 24 ---->>> finished 96 - 66
that's 79 - 42 after that point

- 2005 Astros: 15 - 30 ---->>> finished 89 - 73 (74 - 43)

- 2002 A's: 19 - 25 ---->>> finished 103 - 59 (84 - 34) ... and that was with Art Howe as the skipper

[Benjamin Grimm]

AND they don't even have to catch the Red Sox to make the playoffs, you know.

Last time I looked they were only about five games out in the wild card race.

[metirish]

7.5 games back in the WC...I get what you are all saying,I just don't see it happening.

[Guest silverdsl]

Although I know you're trying not to jinx things and turn the Yankees fortunes around, some of y'all are a lot more optimistic than this Yankee fan. Clemens will give the rotation a big boost no doubt, but at the rate the Yankees are losing pitchers, I don't see them having the pitching to come back from being behind this many games, and that doesn't even take into account that the hitters haven't been hitting much. Maybe they'll get hot after last night, but I can just as easily see them losing 2 out of 3 to the Sox when they really need to win all 3 to stay in it. I suppose I'm supposed to be more positive, but I haven't seen all that much to get me excited from the Yankees this season other than A-Rod's hot start to the season and that's long over.

That said, regardless of what happens, whether they get back in it, or end up tanking even further to the point where they're 20+ games out, I'll still be watching and I'll still be a fan of the team.

[Willets Point]

silverdsl wrote: Although I know you're trying not to jinx things and turn the Yankees fortunes around, some of y'all are a lot more optimistic than this Yankee fan.

For us, that's pessimism.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I actaully do have some doubt about the Clemens boost.