Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 According to Jon Heyman, this is a done deal. Burgos was the Royals closer last year, just 22 years old. Whiffs a guy an inning but gave up 17 HRs in 70-some innings.Miht break Iramets heart but Bannister ain't a huge loss IMO, especially with as many young starting candidates as we got. Amazinly, Burgos is the younger guy.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Never heard of him...where does he fit in the pen,what do we know about him.....yeah Bannister is not a huge loss,still a starter for a pen guy,he better be good.
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Johnny Dickshot wrote:Burgos was the Royals closer last yearNot saying much though=
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 SteveJRogers wrote:="Johnny Dickshot"]Burgos was the Royals closer last yearNot saying much though=Well at least very few people saw him close out games..will be different in NY...
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Yes, see because baseball is dying in KC...btw, that's Ambiorix Burgos, and its 16 bombs in 73.1 IP. Our Ambiorix Factor is at an all-time high.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 I said less than an hour ago that I'd trade Bannister for anything useful, this qualifies. we won't regret this deal.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Ambiorix Burgos -- turns 23 next AprilHere's Baseball Prospectus' write-up (from a year ago):Has more in common with Armando Benitez than just his initials. He throws two pitches: an upper-90s fastball and a fall-off-the-table splitter. Once he was moved to the pen and encouraged to focus on those pitches, he was so dominant in AA that he was brought to KC before the end of April ('05). He weathered a strained shoulder and a brief return to AA quite well. Burgos will be challenging Bobby Jenks for the title of best young closer in the division before long. Keep in mind, he's 3 years younger than Jenks and not shaped like a beer barrel.That Armando comparison will simultaneously encourage and frighten Met fans.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Fuck,I love him already....
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Gotta get those walks down.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Don't overlook those WPs!Hey I like this dealie. Major young smokethrower.
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Frayed Knot wrote:That Armando comparison will simultaneously encourage and frighten Met fans.Heh, just as long as he stays AWAY from the 9th! =
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Welcome A-Board-ick!Well, lets hope that other fellow isn't welcoming him in a couple of months down in Port St Lucie! =
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Touched by the hand of Lima. We should all be so blessed.This fills in the large loss on the right side of the pen from the signaways of Hernandez and Bradford and the possiblity that Duaner doesn't make it all the way back. Successful starter in a limited sample size moved for a reliever with nasty stuff who just needs some polish --- seems like Seo-for-Sanchez all over again, 11 months later.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 SteveJRogers wrote:="Frayed Knot"]That Armando comparison will simultaneously encourage and frighten Met fans.Heh, just as long as he stays AWAY from the 9th! =Yeah, I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there.
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Omar's a worker bee.He just pulls these deals out of his ass.You go get 'em O-Min.
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Edgy DC wrote:="SteveJRogers"]="Frayed Knot"]That Armando comparison will simultaneously encourage and frighten Met fans.Heh, just as long as he stays AWAY from the 9th! =Yeah, I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there.= meant that was a joke based on FK's statement about the Benitez comparision.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Yeah, and I disagree with the apparent point of the joke.
Guest patona314 Guests Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 from what i just saw on baseball-reference:strikes out plentyfew walksbeans plentygives up a ton of homers.sounds like a cross between farnsworth and benitez, or, dare i say, mota's younger brother.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 68 BBs over 137 IPs is not a few walks. Looks like we got us an untamed colt. But it also sounds like he could be real good once broken in.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Frayed Knot wrote:68 BBs over 137 IPs is not a few walks. Looks like we got us an untamed colt. But it also sounds like he could be real good once broken in.can't wait for Peterson to ride him...go Rick go...
Guest patona314 Guests Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Frayed Knot wrote:68 BBs over 137 IPs is not a few walks. Looks like we got us an untamed colt. But it also sounds like he could be real good once broken in.my comment came from his "06 numbers.but if you wanna go that way, more so (137) to ip (136.7). benitez could have done that. i think this guy could be a home run machine.
Guest cleonjones11 Guests Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Garbage in..Garbage out....He wasn't good enough for the Royals..Yikes.
Guest patona314 Guests Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 now that i think about it, omar is making room for someone else. also, maybe he's not giving up on pelfrey/humber/perez. if it's a trade one of those 3 is gone.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 I feel bad for Bannister. Poor bastid.
Guest iramets Guests Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Johnny Dickshot wrote:Miht break Iramets heart but Bannister ain't a huge loss IMO.Well, I've got a heart. He might come to nothing, but I remember how thrilling he was at the start of '06, how many Mets fans were excited by his cool, his guts, his smarts, and maybe his luck in working his way out of self-inflicted jams. Even the way he worked his way out of the Mets' plans, by hurting his hammy, seemed to be a tease. I wish more pitchers would hurt themselves, if they've got to hurt themselves, by injuring parts of their bodies other than their arms. I was looking forward to seeing if he could develop into a rotation regular. Instead we went for the hired gun--the upside for Glavine, in the long run, is that his Met career will be a footnote on his Braves' career, if it's even remembered at all that he pitched for the Mets. As for Bannister, as I said last Friday, "I'll also get Brian Bannister the giant sized cannister of Vaseline, cuz it looks like he's going to need it." I said he'd go to Cleveland or to Hell after the Mets signed Glavine, but even I never imagined he'd go to KC. If I had the choice, I'll choose Hell myself.
Guest Rotblatt Guests Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 ]seems like Seo-for-Sanchez all over again, 11 months laterTotally agree, Edgy. I like this deal a lot.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 iramets wrote:="Johnny Dickshot"]Miht break Iramets heart but Bannister ain't a huge loss IMO.Well, I've got a heart. He might come to nothing, but I remember how thrilling he was at the start of '06, how many Mets fans were excited by his cool, his guts, his smarts, and maybe his luck in working his way out of self-inflicted jams. Even the way he worked his way out of the Mets' plans, by hurting his hammy, seemed to be a tease. I wish more pitchers would hurt themselves, if they've got to hurt themselves, by injuring parts of their bodies other than their arms. I was looking forward to seeing if he could develop into a rotation regular. Instead we went for the hired gun--the upside for Glavine, in the long run, is that his Met career will be a footnote on his Braves' career, if it's even remembered at all that he pitched for the Mets. As for Bannister, as I said last Friday, "I'll also get Brian Bannister the giant sized cannister of Vaseline, cuz it looks like he's going to need it." I said he'd go to Cleveland or to Hell after the Mets signed Glavine, but even I never imagined he'd go to KC. If I had the choice, I'll choose Hell myself.again, I don't think it's accurate to frame it as bannister vs. glavine. He'd still be up against it with regard to cracking the rotation even without Glavine. I also don't see how getting an opportunity in Kaycee vs. an almost assured summer in New Orleans is any way akin to taking it up the poopchute. You should be happy for the guy.I also admired how Bannister battled but sure didn't think it was a good thing for the team'c chances of competing over the long haul. not for nothing but I see Glavine often exhibits the same bulldoggish mentality, the difference being, age, for sure, but also talent.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Burgos has lots of upside, and it looked like the Mets were one reliever short. He'll have to earn his meaningful innings, but he was rushed in KC so that might be a good thing for him. Bannister had too many guys in his way here. He has a clear path to a starting job in KC, so good for him.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Johnny Dickshot wrote: Our Ambiorix Factor is at an all-time high.Along with young outfielder Ambiorix Concepcion, the Mets now have two of them.What's the plural of Ambiorix?Ambiorexes?Ambiori?Just wonderin'.Maybe Soupy was right.Later
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