Met Fact and Opinion III

[Zvon]

Opinion:
Gardenhire is not reluctant to get tossed for the team.
As of July 15, 2006, the Twins manager has been ejected 26 times in 3 and 1/3 seasons.

Fact:
On opening day in 1996, Ozzie Smith and the Cardinals faced the Mets during shortstop Rey Ord��ez's major league debut.
After Ord��ez's stunning relay throw to home plate from his knees during his first major league game, Ozzie Smith responded
"I can definitely say he is the second-coming of me."

[Elster88]

They have busts in the Diamond Club lobby?

[Willets Point]

Elster88 wrote: They have busts in the Diamond Club lobby?

Not since the era of Doc and Straw. Well maybe Tony Tarasco, but that was in the parking lot.

[metirish]

Big Mo had busts..

[metirish]

] On opening day in 1996, Ozzie Smith and the Cardinals faced the Mets during shortstop Rey Ord��ez's major league debut. After Ord��ez's stunning relay throw to home plate from his knees during his first major league game, Ozzie Smith responded "I can definitely say he is the second-coming of me."

When I was first a Mets fan Rey was my fave player, I couldn't believe his defence...

FACT

Doc Gooden will be set free tomorrow(all the best)

[Guest patona314]

Opinion: Doc (for all his glory) was the most dissapointing Met ever to wear the uniform.

Fact: In 1984, Ron Darling issued the most walks in a season for a rookie Met Pitcher (104).

[soupcan]

Opinion: Ron Darling's wife Toni was a hottie.

Fact: On September 14, 1977 Nino Espinosa pitched a complete game 3 hit shutout against the Phillies at the Vet beating them 1-0 and handing eventual 23 game winner, and '77 Cy Young winner, Steve Carlton one of his 10 defeats that year in the process.

[metirish]

Opinion..Darling was not a rookie in 84.

FACT

Throughout major league history only the 1899 Cleveland Spiders (20-134) lost more games in a single season than the 1962 Mets.

[Guest patona314]

metirish wrote: Opinion..Darling was not a rookie in 84. FACT Throughout major league history only the 1899 Cleveland Spiders (20-134) lost more games in a single season than the 1962 Mets.

get your facts straight:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/darliro01.shtml

[metirish]

So even though he started five games in 83 he's still a rookie in 84?....I'm asking because I don't know...

[Guest patona314]

Determining rookie status:
A player shall be considered a rookie unless, during a previous season or seasons, he has (a) exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues; or ( accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list).

[Guest patona314]

Opinion: I don't care about the Cleveland Spiders

Fact: Reingold was the first company to advertise a "lite" beer through baseball advertising. it was called Gablingers. Don't hold me to this one, but I think it's true

[RealityChuck]

Confirmation: Yes, it's true, and Gablinger's was a major disaster for the company. A beer ahead of its time.

Opinion: Beer is the most vile-tasting alcoholic beverage sold regularly in the US.

Fact: The Mets were alerted to Nolan Ryan by a Shea Stadium concession vendor.

[soupcan]

Ahem -

="soupcan"]Fact: On September 14, 1977 Nino Espinosa pitched a complete game 3 hit shutout against the Phillies at the Vet beating them 1-0 and handing eventual 23 game winner, and '77 Cy Young winner, Steve Carlton one of his 10 defeats that year in the process.

Thank you.

[Guest Iubitul]

="soupcan"]Opinion: Ron Darling's wife Toni was a hottie.

Actually, I think this qualifies for a fact...

[smg58]

RealityChuck wrote: Confirmation: Yes, it's true, and Gablinger's was a major disaster for the company. A beer ahead of its time. Opinion: Beer is the most vile-tasting alcoholic beverage sold regularly in the US. Fact: The Mets were alerted to Nolan Ryan by a Shea Stadium concession vendor.

Opinion: They should have consulted with said vendor before dealing Ryan for Jim Fregosi.

Fact Since Rick Peterson left Oakland, none of the big 3 of Hudson, Mulder, and Zito has been as good.

[soupcan]

HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY!!!!!!

="soupcan"]Ahem - ="soupcan"]Fact: On September 14, 1977 Nino Espinosa pitched a complete game 3 hit shutout against the Phillies at the Vet beating them 1-0 and handing eventual 23 game winner, and '77 Cy Young winner, Steve Carlton one of his 10 defeats that year in the process. Thank you.

Harrrumph.

[Elster88]

smg58 wrote: Fact Since Rick Peterson left Oakland, none of the big 3 of Hudson, Mulder, and Zito has been as good.

Sorry, this is an opinion. It's an opinion I happen to agree with, but an opinion nonetheless.

[soupcan]

I hat you all...

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yeah, let's bump Smiggy's opinion-laced factoid and put Soup's rudely bumped fact back on the table.

More proof that pretty womens make menfolk stupid.

[Guest Iubitul]

Trading Nino Espinosa to the Phillies for Richie Hebner was a bad trade


In 1974, Felix Millan had a higher OBP (.317) than Slugging percentage (.311)

[Guest patona314]

Opinion: Did he really need to choke up on the bat THAT much?

Fact: Craig Swan won the 1978 NL ERA title (2.43) despite missing a month with gastroenteritis and recording only nine victories

[Zvon]

Opinion: Swans windup and delivery reminded me of Tom Seaver in every way except for the results. Craig didnt literally stink in 1978, but figuratively did, due to his ailment.

Fact: A historical highlight of the Mets 1987 season was Darryl Strawberry and Howard Johnson becoming the first teammates ever to hit 30 homers and steal 30 bases in the same season.

[stevejrogers]

Opinion: Another Metly example that you really are playing with a ticking time bomb when you work with a patch work pitching staff all year long.

Fact: Despite being known as a pitching rich franchise, two guys who with the exception one a one year return, who last pitched for the Mets 29 years ago are still in the top three all time in all major Metly pitching categories

[Guest patona314]

seaver and kooz. unless i'm wrong, no opinion needed

Fact: Mike Stanton was a Met (think i'm gonna puke now)

[Zvon]

Opinion: I hated Stanton. He sucked.

Fact: Numbers retired by the Mets: 37(Stengel)/14(Hodges)/41(Seaver)/42(J.Robinson-retired by MLB).

Although not officially retired, two other numbers are being held out of circulation:
'8' for Gary Carter (since his 2003 induction into the Hall of Fame) and
'24' for Willie Mays (for 25 seasons after his departure* and since the year 2000),
*Rickey Henderson (99&'00) and Kelvin Torve (10 games in '90) wore '24' during their brief stints with the Mets.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Opinion: I wish teams cycled all 101 available numbers. That way they'd come around less frequently.

Fact: On July 16, 1999, the New York Times reported that Mets minor league player Vincente Rosario was found not guilty in the alleged gang rape of a woman in a Port St Lucie motel. The next day, a correction noted that the player's name was Vicente Rosario, not Vincente, and his lawyer was Harvey Slovis, not Slovin.

[stevejrogers]

Opinion: Edgy seems to obtain alot of news about Mets and their minor league personell. A bit TOO much! =

Fact: This past year was the 10th anniversary of the true start of the Internet Mets Community with the launch of Bryan Hoch's MetsOnline.net after finding a surprising lack of web presence on the Mets GenK trio of Isringhausen, Wilson and Pulsipher.

[soupcan]

Opinion: In retrospect those three didn't really deserve much 'web presence', now did they?

Fact: In game 3 of the 1969, 1973 and 1986 World Series', the Mets leadoff hitter hit a homerun in their respective first at-bats of the game. In Game 3 of the 2000 World Series, Mets leadoff hitter Timo Perez struck out swinging in his first at-bat.

[stevejrogers]

Opinion: Agee, Garrett and Dykstra all had Metly careers of distinction. Perez did not. Karma at work?

Fact: The Mets appear to be running out of room on their pennant display out in RF