Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 His quote appears in the article I pasted above.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 I happen to have this database of favorite Michael Kay soundbites right here on my desktop.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 ]Can anyone find and post what Mota said yesterday? Hmmm. Have you tried the Internet?Just let me boot up and I'll get it soon.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 Yancy Street Gang wrote:His quote appears in the article I pasted above.Aha!Missed it, Yancy.Thanks.Edgy, you might want to save this one, because it may be the only time Kay says anything positive about a Met player. It might become a collector's item some day. Later
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 Shame on you Mota!After much deliberation Ive decided to suspend your playoff baseball cards for 50 days, give or take a month or two.
Guest old original jb Guests Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 After all that's happened in the past few years, how stupid does a guy have to be to decide that now is the time to use performance enhancing drugs?
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 ]While Mike and Mike agreed that taking performance enhancing drugs should be punished, they lauded Mota for acting like a man, admitting it and apologizing for it. Also- Michael Kay has reportedly said that Mota is now his favorite player for the same reasons. Can someone please provide a link to that sound byte, too? Fucking ridiculous that a person is lauded for telling the truth...especially when it's something that everyone already knows.But then all 3 Mikes are idiots.
Guest old original jb Guests Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 Elster88 wrote:]While Mike and Mike agreed that taking performance enhancing drugs should be punished, they lauded Mota for acting like a man, admitting it and apologizing for it. Also- Michael Kay has reportedly said that Mota is now his favorite player for the same reasons. Can someone please provide a link to that sound byte, too? Fucking ridiculous that a person is lauded for telling the truth...especially when it's something that everyone already knows.But then all 3 Mikes are idiots.Reminds me of one of my favorite lines from one of my favorite movies--"Quiz Show". This is a New York congressman addressing (then) Professor Charles Van Doren who has just been lauded by an investigating committee for admitting that he participated in the rigging of a popular TV game show. (Would anyone even care if this happened today?)]Mr Van Doren, I'm also from New York; a different part of New York. I'm happy that you've made the statement. But I cannot agree with most of my colleagues. See, I don't think an adult of your intelligence ought to be commended for simply, at long last, telling the truth.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 Elster88 wrote:]While Mike and Mike agreed that taking performance enhancing drugs should be punished, they lauded Mota for acting like a man, admitting it and apologizing for it. Also- Michael Kay has reportedly said that Mota is now his favorite player for the same reasons. Can someone please provide a link to that sound byte, too? Fucking ridiculous that a person is lauded for telling the truth...especially when it's something that everyone already knows.But then all 3 Mikes are idiots.i think it is possible that you can separate out the commission of a bad act from the admission to a bad act, and applaud the latter while still disparage the former.also, i think that mike and mike' stance is overblown in the above quote. they did amply caveat their applause by stating that it was relative to the actions of others who so easily shrugged off the hat of responsibility.if you're gonna do something wrong, at least wear the hat of responsibility. taking responsibility for your bad actions is worthy of commendation. not as much as if you don't do bad things, but certainly moreso than if you don't take responsibility for those bad actions. and i think that is where mike & mike were going. michael kay, i have no idea. didnt hear it...
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 metsmarathon wrote:taking responsibility for your bad actions is worthy of commendation. The phrase "taking responsibility" is by far one of the most ill-used phrases in thew world.Mota didn't really take responsibility for anything. Saying "I admit what I did was wrong" after being caught out means nothing. He didn't take responsibility, it was already on him.The phrase taking responsibility is meant more for someone who steps up and takes the blame when he didn't have to. As in, if a committee of people is blamed for something, and the most/only guilty party shoulders more/all of the blame when it could've been spread around. That's taking responsibility.Or if somebody gets hurt through some accident that was a result of your short-sightedness...where you can get away without anyone knowing...and you step forward and pay his bills or drive him to the hospital or whatever. That's taking responsbility.When you are known to be at fault, you can't "take responsibility." You're already responsible. What Mota did is not taking responsibilty. It's stating something we already knew by virtue of the test he failed.Edit: To clarify, I'm not going to condemn him any MORE for saying "I knowingly took illegal substances and did something stupid." But it doesn't remove one iota of blame/fault that I place on him.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 well it does make him better than someone who claims not to have done anything wrong (Rose for example)
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 Freakin' cheatin' loser. At least admitted to being a cheatin' loser. Cut his ass loose. I had a hard time cheering for that glove throwin', chicken shit anyway.
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