You're Fired and you're Hired.

[metirish]

Dusty out in Chicago and Alou will not be back with the Giants,so far that's three openings in the NL ,two less African American managers,and from what I'm reading Girardi is no shoo in for the Cubs job.

[metirish]

Opps, Alou is not African American..my bad.

[Guest Ned Fengus]

metirish wrote: Dusty out in Chicago and Alou will not be back with the Giants,so far that's three openings in the NL ,two less African American managers,and from what I'm reading Girardi is no shoo in for the Cubs job.

I don't believe that Alou is African-American. In fact I'm sure of it.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

There are two less with Robinson and Baker out, though.

So you were right. Even though you were wrong. Or something like that.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Is anybody rooting for anyone in particular to get a shot at one of those jobs? (Or any others that might open up?)

I'd like to see Wally Backman get hired again, and actually manage this time, but I really doubt that that will happen.

[metirish]

thanks OO,I am all confused.

[metirish]

I'd love to see Bobby V back in a big market but in an interview that I posted here last week he could not be happier in Japan.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

I think Manny Acta is going to get a shot somewhere.

[metirish]

Acta has a shot with the Marlins but I read that the front runner is Freddie Gonzalez.

[Guest vtmet]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Is anybody rooting for anyone in particular to get a shot at one of those jobs? (Or any others that might open up?) .

The main thing that I'd like to see is for new guys to get a shot...seeing the same guys just get moved from club to club while other guys not getting a shot gets pretty old...I'll just call it the "Hubie/Larry Brown" syndrome (10 coaching jobs between the 2)...

[Guest Edgy DC]

I understand distrust of the old boy network, but Hubie Brown (1) is excellent, and (2) waited 16 years between jobs.

Larry Brown's record speaks for itself.

[Frayed Knot]

The interesting job might be in Frisco.
If you were interviewing there, wouldn't you kinda want to know in advance:
a) whether or not they were planning on re-upping Bonds?
and
knowing how much authority you would have with him if he was around?

I think a lot of folks - including most Giant players - are hoping that they'll just cut ties with him at this point. But his 2nd-half mini-resurgence gave him more HRs this season then he'll need next season to catch Aaron. That alone could give owner McGowen - prolly Bonds' biggest booster already - enough incentive to go one more year.
It'll be one of the more interesting off-season questions.

[Frayed Knot]

It's official; Girardi's out in Florida.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

He must've been a real prick to be fired for personality reasons after the season he just had, and with two of three years remaining on his contract.

I wonder if he gets another chance?

[metirish]

If we are to believe what we are hearing and reading then I don't see why any GM would go near him.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't doubt that he will.

There have been lots of managerial pricks, including a few in the Hall of Fame. They keep getting hired. With Torre pedigree and a brief resume that has him far exceeding the expectations for the only team he managed, I'd be surprised if he didn't have a job for opening day 2007.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: He must've been a real prick to be fired for personality reasons after the season he just had, and with two of three years remaining on his contract. I wonder if he gets another chance?

From what I understand, Girardi was too good to fit into Loria's scheme to kill the Marlins and that's the source of their difficulty, more or less. Loria is like Bud's personal hit man -- he's sent to franchises that won;t buy him a new stadium (Montreal, now Florida), acts like a jackass and screws over fans. I'm sure after the Fish pack up and move to Vegas (and hopefully, join the AL) Loria ca$hes out bigtime.

I hear Girardi is well liked in Chicago and would get a shot at the Cub job.

[metirish]

The Marlins have named Fredi Gonzalez as their new manager.

[Frayed Knot]

Wow, that was quick!
Me thinks there was some contact betweent he parties prior to the season ending.

Girardi supposedly has a bit of Buck Showalter in him in that he's a bit of a control freak and wants his hands in every step of the pie-making.
The Chicago supposition comes from the fact that he's from Illinois and attended Northwestern. Also, the Tribune ownership reportedly likes him.
Either way, he'll land on his feet somewhere.

[metirish]

His meeting with the Marlins GM lasted for about 5 minutes Girardi said,Loria did not attend,apparently Larry Beinfest wanted to hire Gonzalaz last year but Loria picked Girardi.

[Guest Edgy DC]

The Washington Post claims "sources" having the Nats interested in Girardi.

[DocTee]

Buck Showalter out in Texas...Jaramillo??

[metirish]

Buck minght a good fit for the Cubs.

[MFS62]

According to my Ranger fan friend, bench coach Don Wakamatsu, and Trey Hillman (who managed in Japan the last couple of years) are the leading candidates to replace Buck.

Later

[Frayed Knot]

Someone asked before if the damage to Girardi's 'rep' in Florida was enough to prevent him from getting another managing job. I think that it's Showalter's rep that may prevent him from landing a new one anytime soon. This is now three good (or at least decent) clubs that have kicked him out over issues of disgruntled players and co-workers - two of which still owed him major money.

Now, if form holds, Texas will win the WS next year. Get your bets in NOW!!!!

[Gwreck]

ESPN is reporting that Torre will be fired (unless he resigns) and likely replaced with Lou Pinella.

Seriously.

[Zvon]

Gwreck wrote: ESPN is reporting that Torre will be fired (unless he resigns) and likely replaced with Lou Pinella. Seriously.

oh--it goes here.
Dont mind me-
sometimes you have to take me by the shoulders and point me in the right direction.
But yea-what he said.

[Gwreck]

Crap, I missed this in the Tigers/Yankees series thread.

I suppose it could go in the AP MFY thread too. Too many decisions.

[Zvon]

Gwreck wrote: Crap, I missed this in the Tigers/Yankees series thread. I suppose it could go in the AP MFY thread too. Too many decisions.

lol---no, my bad G.

I better at least try and sleep.
One more brew-ill guzzle.

[Guest old original jb]

]"In a public statement he issued Sunday, Steinbrenner called the result "absolutely not acceptable" and "a sad failure." But he had not yet consulted with Yankees executives about any change, at least not yet, a baseball official said Sunday, speaking on condition of anonymity because no statements other than Steinbrenner's were authorized."

Not, "My guys played a great season but Detroit just outplayed us in the series."

Not, "this is very dissapointing, but when so many good teams play in the post-season, there are no guarantees.

If anything ever illustrated the Yankee sense of entitlement we all hate, this is it.

]"That's pretty drastic," outfielder Johnny Damon was quoted as saying by the Web site. "Joe has been awesome. You never know what's going to happen, but I think Joe should be safe. For all he's done and had to put up with, he's been incredible."

Welcome to the Bronx, Johnny. Yankeeball is, in contrast to what you may have experienced elsewhere, grim business. Watch your back.