Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 This guy keeps playing with my affections.268/321/380/701 3.9 RC/GNot very good.He needs to start hitting a few xtra base hits. Castro could stand to get a few more of his starts.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Fine, but, you know, Castro sucks.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Elster88 wrote:Fine, but, you know, Castro sucks.Well that's pretty ignorant. In truth neither guy sucks -- they're rather comparable: More so than playing time would indicate is my point.Castro has been worth 0.6 more RC/G if you believe the stats. I'd just like to see LoDuca do more than hit singles.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Johnny Dickshot wrote:I'd just like to see LoDuca do more than hit singles.Or bunt.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Johnny Dickshot wrote:="Elster88"]Fine, but, you know, Castro sucks.Well that's pretty ignorant.That's what I was going for.
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 I don't have any problem with the singles once Jose gets on and steals second.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Reportedly that bunt last night was his idea and not Willie's.I know it wasn't mine.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Lo Duca's history of second-half swoons is another reason to get more PT for Castro.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 We've been doing a positively excellent job this homestand of using bunts to turn potential rallies into 1-run innings.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Since Lo Duca is hitting second I'm not worried about his SLG being low. I'm more worried about his OBP being low.
Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 That's a nice way to spin it!
Theoldmole Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Actually, the bunt was my idea. I was hoping it would get me some votes for #1 Mets Fan.
Guest Mr. Zero Guests Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 I could of sworn he was batting at least 20 pts higher just last week. He best lay off those shots of Sambooo-ca.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 His BA is .276And I'm not sure in what way Castro is comparable to LoDuca.They comliment each other well...as in Castro is a great backup catcher. But he's seeing about as much action as he should.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Casto went .244 / .321 / .435 // .763 for an OPS+ of 97 in 240 plate appearances last year.Lo Duca went .283 / .334 / .380 // .747 for an OPS+ of 92 in 496 plate appearances.Now, that's pretty out of whack with Castro's big league numbers, but he hit in the minors, and this is the first time he's gotten some consistent PT. I don't know if he could sustain that performance, but since he seems superior to Lo Duca more or less in most facets of the defensive game, I'd reward his performance with more PT to see what happens.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 "And I'm not sure in what way Castro is comparable to LoDuca."More power for one ... despite LoDuke's off-the-wall shot in inning 1 here.Castro can hit a bit (albeit in smaller samples) and is a better thrower than LoDuke (IMO).On edit: cross-posted with Edgy above -- but check out those ISO (isolated slugging) numbers: not quite .100 for LoDuke & nearly .200 for The Dictator.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 I think some guys get tagged. Particularly at catcher. If they come up and backup job is available, and they do more or less well, they're a backup catcher.If they come up and a starting job is avialable, and they put up the same numbers, they're a starting catcher.Lo Duca came up just as Todd Hundley was falling apart, and the starting job became suddenly available, and he filled it.When Mike Redmond fumbled the job away in Florida, they went out and got Charles Johnson. Castro got buried at the same career juncture when Lo Duca caught a break.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Frayed Knot wrote:More power for one ... despite LoDuke's off-the-wall shot in inning 1 here.Castro can hit a bit (albeit in smaller samples) and is a better thrower than LoDuke (IMO).I'll agree...Castro has more power. But if we're talking about more playing time then who hits second? Milledge? Valentin? I suppose maybe Chavez, but LoDuca does his job moving Reyes along, and I'm of the theory that if it isn't broke...I guess if they truly are comparable and we're "rewarding" Castro's numbers are we punishing LoDuca by making him sit while putting up comparable stats? It's not as if he isn't doing his job. Do we really need more extra base hits from the number 7 spot in the order by potentially losing production from the number 2 spot? Are stolen bases by the other team costing us ballgames? Todd Pratt had some good numbers in small sample sizes too.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Who bats second?- I don't really care. Castro's too slow obviously but almost anyone else can match LoDuca's speed and OBA. Plus, we've managed to find someone for the (25% of so) games that Castro's caught this year and the lineup certainly doesn't fall apart. The notion of 'moving runners along' is nice but somewhat over-rated - even for #2 hitters. 2/3rds of the time (the pct Reyes does NOT get on) there's no one to move up anyway and, even when there are, I'd rather have hits as opposed to trading outs for a runner advancement in most situations.And besides, all I'm really talking about here is moving those Castro starts from the 20-25% realm into maybe the 35% area. As mentioned, maybe it would also help stem the LoDuca 2nd-half fades that he's had over the years.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 ="Frayed Knot"]Who bats second?- I don't really care. Castro's too slow obviously but almost anyone else can match LoDuca's speed and OBA. Plus, we've managed to find someone for the (25% of so) games that Castro's caught this year and the lineup certainly doesn't fall apart. The notion of 'moving runners along' is nice but somewhat over-rated - even for #2 hitters. 2/3rds of the time (the pct Reyes does NOT get on) there's no one to move up anyway and, even when there are, I'd rather have hits as opposed to trading outs for a runner advancement in most situations.And besides, all I'm really talking about here is moving those Castro starts from the 20-25% realm into maybe the 35% area. As mentioned, maybe it would also help stem the LoDuca 2nd-half fades that he's had over the years.I suppose. I guess I'm just not sure where LoDuca's production is hurting the team.If and when LoDuca takes his 2nd half tumble, then sure, throw Ramon in there every 3rd or 4th start rather than every 5th. Then when Ramon starts striking out with runners on we can all bitch about how if LoDuca were a more durable player we wouldn't need to use our backup and how overrated moving the runner along is.On edit - SC=49.667
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 ]Lo Duca came up just as Todd Hundley was falling apart, and the starting job became suddenly available, and he filled it. he did have a good rookie year with the bat, i think everyone keeps expecting him to repeat it.i'd be happy to play Castro more because i like him better. As for who bats second i wanted beltran there from day 1 but i'd be a bit adverse to..OMG as i am typing this STEVE TRASCHEL HAS HOMERED!!!!!...switching the lineup around when we're doing well. if loduca sits more i'd bat Nady/Milledge 2nd.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 I keep posting in the wrong thread.
Guest Hillbilly Guests Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 08:33 AM - Read: Lo Duca and Willie and Bunting and Reyes ...posted by Matthew Cerrone... On Monday night, Jose Reyes lead off the game with a double. Paul Lo Duca then bunted him over to third�According to the Star-Ledger, Willie Randolph talked with Lo Duca, and told his catcher he is free to swing away in those situations�Last night, Reyes again lead off the game with a double. This time, Lo Duca chose not to bunt, and drove Reyes in with a double of his own�Following Monday�s game, Lo Duca explained that he chose to bunt and play for the single run because Bronson Arroyo has been such an effective pitcher this season and that runs could have been hard to come by��fair enough�i actually agree with lo duca on the arroyo situation�to me, it�s far more important that he put his team in a position to end that inning up 1�0, as opposed to taking a chance at a rally�more than anything, it�s glad to hear that he and willie are communicating so well�]The quote above from metblog
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 ]Following Monday�s game, Lo Duca explained that he chose to bunt and play for the single run because Bronson Arroyo has been such an effective pitcher this season and that runs could have been hard to come by� �fair enough�i actually agree with lo duca on the arroyo situation�to me, it�s far more important that he put his team in a position to end that inning up 1�0, as opposed to taking a chance at a rally�more than anything, it�s glad to hear that he and willie are communicating so well�I mentioned something like this in the IGT but I think it got buried. Considering both Arroyo and that Beltran drove him in from third with an out I thought it could've been a good decision to bunt there.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 ]BILF 'nuff said.I think you mean BIFL. Or were you going for MILF?
Guest sharpie Guests Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 We should have negative thread titles for all Mets starters. It seems to inspire them.
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 Elster88 wrote:]BILF 'nuff said.I think you mean BIFL. Or were you going for MILF?i was going for "BIFL", but i had "MILF" on my mind.I often have MILF on my mind. Its a problem.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 "Been there, my friend."Still am there.
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