How the Rotation Sets Up

[Elster88]

Gwreck wrote: This puts us at a disadvantage vs. the MFYs, though. Fri: El Duque vs. Mussina Sat: Trachsel vs. Johnson Sun: Soler vs. Wright or Chacon

Sort of. Disadvantage for game 1. 2&3 could either be advantages for us or even.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Interesting to see if Franco starts at first against Randy Johnson.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Glavine could possibly get two consecutive starts, thanks to the four-day All-Star break. It looks like he'll pitch on Sunday, July 9, and he could go again in the following game, on Friday, July 14 in Chicago.

My guess, though, is that Pedro will get that Friday start. So we'll have four games of Pedro, Glavine, Pedro, Glavine.

[Frayed Knot]

Once we break for the ASG, we have just 3 games over the next 8 days - Ugh!
(Mon thru Mon) OFF - OFF - OFF - OFF - Cubs - Cubs - Cubs - OFF


Good for rotation ... bad for fans.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I have a very long dry stretch coming up, since I'll miss all of the games for ten days before the All-Star break because of my vacation. I'll watch the last game from Boston on Thursday night, and then nothing until July 14. And I won't be able to see either of the last two games from Wrigley unless FOX televises the Saturday game.

I might be able to see the beginning of the July 1 game against the Yankees. It'll be on FOX, and it will start at 8 a.m. Alaska time.

[MFS62]

Frayed Knot wrote: Once we break for the ASG, we have just 3 games over the next 8 days - Ugh! (Mon thru Mon) OFF - OFF - OFF - OFF - Cubs - Cubs - Cubs - OFF Good for rotation ... bad for fans.

Also bad for Traschel. I've read several times that he is a slave to routine. He likes pitching in a five man rotation. If that gets messed up (either too many or too few days between starts) he doesn't pitch as well.

Later

[Gwreck]

With the doubleheader coming up on Saturday, Ed Coleman said on WFAN today that Darren Oliver or John Maine would be making a start this week.

[seawolf17]

According to ESPN, that would be on Monday, because Pedro's skipping a start.

[Frayed Knot]

And the reason for that - in addition to the DH of course - is that Pedro will miss his start tomorrow due to this bad hip of his.
It's unclear at this point whether he's going to miss an entire go around or just get pushed back a few days.

Either way I'm betting that Pedro pulls out of the AS Game appearance.

[Gwreck]

Pedro slipped in the bathroom and fell on his hip while he was changing his shirt during a series in Florida in May. That's the cause of the hip injury, which is bothering him, apparently.

[Guest cleonjones11]

We really have a different rotation since most are hurt or inept..How about..

1. Dontrelle Willis
2. Tom Glavine

Uh...we have to trade for Willis and we dont really have anyone else

[Frayed Knot]

Well I've been figuring all along that our current rotation would make it until the AS break before any changes would be implemented ... but it doesn't look like we're going to make it that far.

Between Pedro's hip, Soler sucking, and the DH coming up this week, some move (and maybe more than one) is going to have to be made.
Maine probably sometime this week, I'd guess in exchange for Soler getting on the Norfolk express hopefully to get straightened out.
Bannister still isn't pitching regularly, which leaves Lima *ugh), MacLane (who hasn't been pitching well lately), or Pelfrey (who has). This all supposes no deal is made.

I still think they'll wait a bit more on Pelfrey - at minimum until after the AS break and our 3-games-in-8-days gap is behind us.

Then again, what da fuck do I know?

[Gwreck]

Bannister should also be back...eventually.

[Frayed Knot]

Yeah, I just don't know when "eventually" is.
He was only eligible to come off the DL just in the last week (remember he was moved to the 60-day) and I don't think he's even pitched anywhere yet.

Sounds like he's at least another month away - and it's not like we know what he is yet either.

[Gwreck]

Going into the All-Star Break:

Thu: Trachsel
Fri:
Sat: John Maine
Sat:
Sun: Glavine

Forecast:
Pedro will pitch Friday, if able. Otherwise, he'll go on the DL, retroactive to his last appearance (June 28 vs. Boston) and will be reactivated to start July 14, the first game after the All-Star break.

If Pedro goes on the DL:
Jose Lima will start Friday.
The other start on Saturday will fall to Darren Oliver, probably with Anderson Garcia being called up to cover the 'pen -- or Mike Pelfrey will be called up and will start.

If Pedro does pitch:
Lima time probably shifts back to Saturday.

My Prediction:
Pedro to the DL, no Pelfrey.

[Guest SI Metman]

I doubt Anderson Garcia gets the call. He had a rehab outing on Tuesday night for the Gulf Coast League team and was wildly ineffective. Their best bet is to put a guy out there that will give them a 100 pitches.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Just looking for a backender for the pen for a day or two. It could be Steve Schmoll or Juan Perez or Tim Lavigne.

[Gwreck]

Edgy DC wrote: Just looking for a backender for the pen for a day or two. It could be Steve Schmoll or Juan Perez or Tim Lavigne.

True. I forgot that Garcia was hurt, I figured him as the backender for a day or two du jour, given his previous call up.

[Gwreck]

Rotation following the All-Star Break is set:

at Chicago
Fri - Trachsel
Sat - Glavine
Sun - Hernandez

at Cincinnati
Tue - Maine or Pelfrey
Wed - Pedro
Thu - Trachsel

[metirish]

Just heard on the FAN that Pedro will not pitch against the Reds next week becuase of a stomach bug.

[Gwreck]

Probably results in Pelfrey and Maine getting the starts against the Reds.

[metirish]

Pelfrey will start Tuesday, Reyes won't play tomorrow, and that game is at 2pm....I hate that.

[Frayed Knot]

Yeah, essentially there were three pieces of news coming out of Chicago where the Mets are today for a team workout:

via Eddie Coleman on FAN

1) Pedro was felled by a stomach bug over the break and therefore did not throw as planned (or at least that's their story and they're sticking to it) ergo he's NOT sked to pitch Wednesday as per the original plan.
Assuming this is a legit story, and not something concocted in order to cover up something concerning his hip/toe/shoulder, all this does is give him a longer break.

2) Reyes will NOT be in the lineup on Friday but should be sometime during the weekend. Still the pinkie finger bugging him and apparently he can swing righty better than lefty

3) Pelfrey will throw Tuesday, filling out the Trax, Glavine, Ducky rotation. So Wednesday (where Pedro was sked to start) can either be filled with Maine or w/Trax who will be on his reg rest by then thanks to Monday's off day.
Speculation is that Maine can be used out of the pen this weekend or maybe take the start on Wednesday if not needed before then.

[Gwreck]

Coming up this week:

Pelfrey/Trachsel/Glavine vs. the Reds on Tuesday-Wednesday-Thursday.

For the weekend series vs. the Astros:

Fri: El Duque vs. Taylor Buchholz
Sat: TBA (Pedro? Maine?) vs. TBA (Wandy Rodriguez/Fernando Nieve)
Sun: Pelfrey vs. Roy Oswalt

Looks like you-know-who probably won't even make the trip to Shea, with the Astros starting a homestand the following Tuesday.

[Gwreck]

Maine starts on Saturday.

The off days could allow them to push Pedro all the way back to the first weekend in August against Philly if they wanted. More likely, he starts 7/29 vs. Atlanta.

[Elster88]

I feel like Met starters have completed seven innings like twice all year.

[Elster88]

I never gave up on you, Maine.

[Elster88]

When Pedro comes back, I want a rotation of Pedro, Glavine, Traxx, Pelfrey, and Maine. Ducky to the pen. Or AAA.

Yes, I felt that way before yesterday's game.

[nymr83]

maine has earned more starts and el duque has pitched his way out of them.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

What is the point of saying that Pedro will only pitch one more time before the trading deadline?

It's not as if Pedro is on the trading block.

These guys are maroons and knuckleheads. And yet, they're the best Fox has to offer.

Fox needs to sign up some better broadcasters NOW!!!