Mex17 Old-Timey Member Posted October 10, 2005 Posted October 10, 2005 Phillies:http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2186589Orioles:http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2186744He deserves a second chance after being made to be the scapegoat for Wilpon's wrongheaded thinking (which was enabled by Goldis) at the 2004 trade deadline.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted October 10, 2005 Posted October 10, 2005 I don't think he was made the scapegoat for those deals.
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted October 11, 2005 Posted October 11, 2005 Orioles job looks to be off the table, Flanagan "promoted".
Mex17 Old-Timey Member Posted October 11, 2005 Author Posted October 11, 2005 Edgy DC wrote:I don't think he was made the scapegoat for those deals.http://mets.scout.com/2/278781.html
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted October 11, 2005 Posted October 11, 2005 That article clearly gives Duquette a pass and makes Wilpon and Goldis the scapegoats for the deal.
Mex17 Old-Timey Member Posted October 11, 2005 Author Posted October 11, 2005 Edgy DC wrote:That article clearly gives Duquette a pass and makes Wilpon and Goldis the scapegoats for the deal.It certainly does, and I have to think that Duquette, as it states in the article, could not have possibly changed philosophies so quickly.Wilpon, on the other hand, was the one who was chirping about "Meaningful Games in September" and making statements on the radio that spring like "We're not rebuilding. . .we've rebuilt." But Duquette was the one who fell on his sword after the fallout because Wilpon has the power to make a guy like Duquette fall on said sword.So the article, assuming that it is accurate, paints Wilpon/Goldis as the culprits but Wilpon pins it on Duquette (who, if you believe Healy, opposed the whole thing) after the fact. An EXTREMELY raw deal if true.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted October 11, 2005 Posted October 11, 2005 That's also a mostly opinion article. Don't confuse it's conclusions of heros and villians as if a statement of absolute truth.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted October 13, 2005 Posted October 13, 2005 Not to invite a fatwah here but can anyone come up with an "Al Goldis is the Antichrist" angle from a non-dubious source?
Guest KC Guests Posted October 13, 2005 Posted October 13, 2005 Re-quoting "meaningful games" and the such is tired and old. The thingsthat some Mets fans cling to and lick is just sad.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted October 13, 2005 Posted October 13, 2005 ="KC"]The things that some Mets fans cling to and lick is just sad.Boy, is that ever true!
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted October 13, 2005 Posted October 13, 2005 ] cling to and lick Says Jerry Cram.
Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted October 13, 2005 Posted October 13, 2005 I don't think the guy licking the puddle is getting maximum protection from that batting helmet.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted October 13, 2005 Posted October 13, 2005 The guy running that outstanding White Sox staff, pitching coach Don Cooper, played under Goldis for New York Tech. According to this recent Newsday article, he swears by the Tech program then and now.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted October 13, 2005 Posted October 13, 2005 I have no idea what it is, and I don't think I want to know. There's a lot more to the story, apparently; when I saw Kase's post, I googled "mets lick," and that's the photo essay that came up. It was too bizarre not to post.
Guest KC Guests Posted October 13, 2005 Posted October 13, 2005 I guess I should point out for 411 that I am the founding father of WoundLickers Anonymous. You've probably seen some of our bumper stickers:One Game At a TimeAnother Friend of KC'sYou Will be AmazedShare Your Crapiness
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted October 13, 2005 Posted October 13, 2005 Seawolf. Just noticed the profile pic. LOL.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted October 13, 2005 Posted October 13, 2005 And once again, CF, my least favorite part of the new forum rears its ugly head, as nobody will get your comment once I post four more times.
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