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I think that's five leadoff runners on own six inning for DET (at least 4 of 6).


oe: 4 of 6. In the 5th inning the Tigers got a one out walk and in the 3rd went out 1-2-3

But they got the leadoff runner on in the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 6th.

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None of which has anything to do with his pitch count or a 'wall'.

 

Question my choice of words, but I was right. He didn't get through the fifth.

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None of which has anything to do with his pitch count or a 'wall'.

 

Question my choice of words, but I was right. He didn't get through the fifth.

 

It wasn't merely a choice of words, it was your stated reason for doing so.

He was pulled because he was 20+ pitches in that inning in particular with two runners on and a lefty coming up, not due to some predetermined artificial constraints.

And it didn't work.

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oe: 4 of 6. In the 5th inning the Tigers got a one out walk and in the 3rd went out 1-2-3

But they got the leadoff runner on in the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 6th.

 

Now five innings in seven w/leadoff runners on off three different pitchers.

You have to be fortunate to allow only three runs beginning nearly each inning that way.

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No.


It is really weird how we are being asked to treat it as an established fact that Helsley's issue is tipping.


Maybe he just isn't throwing good pitches.

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Remind me again why Helsley was a good pickup.

 

Because the seasons leading up to this one he had a sub-3.00 ERA, sub-1.00 WHIP, 5.4 H/9, and throws 100+ while still in his prime (30)

It clearly hasn't worked out to date whether from tipping or something else, but it sure doesn't look like something that was knowable ahead of time.



In any case, we weren't going to win this game with two runs anyway so they've got two shots to get their hitting shoes on.

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