Trade Deadline

[kcmets]

Yeah, and the article was probably discussed here. Just sharing...

[batmagadanleadoff]

=kcmets post_id=164675 time=1722362851 user_id=53]
Yeah, and the article was probably discussed here. Just sharing...

[Bob Alpacadaca]

Bob Alpacadaca wrote: SNY says Mets are trading left-handed reliever Josh Walker to the Pittsburgh Pirates, per multiple reports. Not sure who we are getting back. Walker was designated for assignment last week in order for the Mets to create room on the 40-man roster following the acquisition of Ryne Stanek, so it's likely not much, if anything beyond some Cranebucks..

New York is receiving Nicolas Carreno, a left-handed pitcher in the DSL for Josh Walker.

[MFS62]

Holy Steve Dalkowski, Batman!

In 32 minor league innings across two seasons, 18 year old Nicolas Carreno has walked 38 and struck out 53.

Raw talent.

Later

[Cowtipper]

Mets are buyers, baby!

[CitiFieldPornRoom]

I think some of the deGrom thing is gone over here, I didn't re-read it today but recall reading it.... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/28/sports/baseball/jacob-degrom-rangers.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/28/sports/baseball/jacob-degrom-rangers.html I remember that article from when it was first published. It doesn't answer any of the questions I raised in my previous post in this thread. And I don't believe a single word of anything deGrom says in that article. None of it makes any sense. It's disingenuous. I figure that deGrom's smart enough to know what he should say publicly to appear as diplomatic as possible. And if he didn't know what to say, then he was coached by his handlers and advisors. I'm not knocking deGrom personally. He was a good guy here and never made any trouble as far as I can see. And he had the right to choose to play for Texas if that was his preference.

All to say, I don't believe deGrom was somehow desperate to get out of here so much that if the Rangers were to ask him to waive the no-trade he wouldn't consider it.

[MFS62]

Soler to the Braves and Al Leiter Jr. to the MFYs.

Later

[ashie62]

=kcmets post_id=164671 time=1722362414 user_id=53]
Approaching the four hour mark, it feels like everyone is getting

something good and the Mets are getting bumbling bupkis.

[Edgy MD]

Nah. It's awesome.



I believe in the Mets I got.



That said, I suspect something is still yet to go down.

[ashie62]

I do also but not at the expense of not trying to improve club when the opportunities to do so abound

[ashie62]

Alex Cobb, starting pitcher from SF to Cleveland

[Gwreck]

Edgy MD wrote: I believe in the Mets I got.

Nice sentiment, but the Mets have 9 playoff appearances in their 63 seasons of existence. It's long past time to upgrade the team given that these chances don't come around very much. Go get Flaherty and Tanner Scott.

[Cowtipper]

I hope they trade Jeff McFail, Edwin Dud-ez, Tyloss Megill, Adam Oughta-go, Reed Gar-WHIP and Pete Alon-Slouch.

[Cowtipper]

Mets Finalizing Deal For Paul Blackburn



4-2, 4.41 ERA in 9 starts. A very Metsian move for a team that is "in it."

Edited July 30, 2024 by Guest

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

The Mets are acquiring starting pitcher Paul Blackburn from the Oakland A's, according to ESPN. The 30-year-old right-hander has a 4.41 ERA in nine starts this season and has a 4.83 career ERA across 404 innings.

[Edgy MD]

Edgy MD wrote: I believe in the Mets I got. Nice sentiment, but the Mets have 9 playoff appearances in their 63 seasons of existence. It's long past time to upgrade the team given that these chances don't come around very much. Go get Flaherty and Tanner Scott.

Well, the Mets probably won't be using any of their 1994 players down the stretch.

[Cowtipper]

Bringing Blackburn on reminds me of when they brought on Dave Williams in 2006 to "improve the team."

[Gwreck]

Edgy MD wrote: Well, the Mets probably won't be using any of their 1994 players down the stretch.

What does this even mean? Serious question.

[MFS62]

Waiting to the last minute to pick a prom date rarely gets you the belle of the ball.

Later

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: Well, the Mets probably won't be using any of their 1994 players down the stretch. What does this even mean? Serious question.

It means that the Mets 2024 post-season hopes have nothing to do with what the Mets did in 1994 or what they did in just about any other past season.

Edited July 30, 2024 by Guest

[Gwreck]

It's unclear how exactly Blackburn would be an upgrade over Tylor Megill, let alone David Peterson.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=Gwreck post_id=164704 time=1722370391 user_id=56]
It's unclear how exactly Blackburn would be an upgrade over Tylor Megill, let alone David Peterson.

[Edgy MD]

Edgy MD wrote: Well, the Mets probably won't be using any of their 1994 players down the stretch. What does this even mean? Serious question.

I mean to suggest that recounting failed outcomes from past years isn't particularly instructive to what is the wisest move to do today. Not to me, anyhow. That's water over the dam, under the bridge, down the toilet, and passed on through other places water goes to.



It would be more relevant, perhaps, if we compared the decisions they made in past years — along with those moves' outcomes and ultimate impacts — to decisions they may or may not make in 2024.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=164705 time=1722370521 user_id=68]
=Gwreck post_id=164704 time=1722370391 user_id=56]
It's unclear how exactly Blackburn would be an upgrade over Tylor Megill, let alone David Peterson.

[MFS62]

Yes, it appears that Blackburn may be a Houser replacement (in terms of how he will be used) more than anything else.

Later

[Cowtipper]

They are surrendering 2023 third round pick Kade Morris for Blackburn.

[ashie62]

Blackburn is light out when healthy



Good get



Yeah!



Good Severino Manaea Peterson insurance

[Gwreck]

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Well, the Mets probably won't be using any of their 1994 players down the stretch. What does this even mean? Serious question. I mean to suggest that recounting failed outcomes from past years isn't particularly instructive to what is the wisest move to do today. Not to me, anyhow. That's water over the dam, under the bridge, down the toilet, and passed on through other places water goes to. It would be more relevant, perhaps, if we compared the decisions they made in past years — along with those moves' outcomes and ultimate impacts — to decisions they may or may not make in 2024.

Ok, sure. There's a few books that could be (have been?) written about that history. But given that history, you don't think there's at least some added imperative to try to win in years when they're already set up for the potential success, as evidenced by actual concrete wins?

[Cowtipper]

Blackburn has been in the majors since 2017 and has never pitched more than 111 1/3 innings in a season. Career 4.83 ERA. 84 ERA+.



Dud trade.



This is like 2021, when they did half steps in bringing on Rich Hill and ended up going from a winning team to a team with a losing record.

[Edgy MD]

=Gwreck post_id=164712 time=1722371353 user_id=56]
Ok, sure. There's a few books that could be (have been?) written about that history. But given that history, you don't think there's at least some added imperative to try to win in years when they're already set up for the potential success, as evidenced by actual concrete wins?