Grand Slams

[Frayed Knot]

Triggered by a discussion during one of the recent games where an announcer (I think AJ Pierzynski) mentioned JD Martinez's GS total (8)

before adding, 'but he comes up with the bases loaded a lot'. So that got me wondering who made the most of their trips w/bases loaded.

Ventura always comes to mind as his total is up there among a bunch of guys who mostly have a bunch more HRs than him.



So I took the top 13 all time GS leaders, which translates to 16 GS or more, and compared that to the number of PAs he had with the

pillows (as Keith would say) full of teammates. And, yes, I used PAs rather than just ABs to account for all trips to the plate which

started with runners all around.



So who is the clutchiest GS hitter among the elites?

Why it's none other than David Arthur Kingman!!!, who HR'd in a little under one of every ten bases loaded PAs

Ventura, as it turns out, was smack in the middle of the pack within the group.

			GS		PA w/123		Pct
	KINGMAN, DAVE		16		167		9.58%
	McCOVEY, WILLIE		18		196		9.18%
	LEE, CARLOS		17		207		8.21%
	RODRIGUEZ, ALEX		25		310		8.06%
	GEHRIG, LOU		23		292		7.88%
	WILLIAMS, TED		17		220		7.73%
	VENTURA, ROBIN		18		238		7.56%
	RAMIREZ, MANNY		21		285		7.37%
	BABE RUTH		16		224		7.14%
	FOXX, JIMMIE		17		242		7.02%
	MURRAY, EDDIE		19		302		6.29%
	AARON, HANK		16		272		5.88%
	PUJOLS, ALBERT		16		315		5.08%

Do I think the results of this 'study' says anything? No, not really. Random variation most likely.

Mostly I was just curious.

[DocTee]

I remember someone from the mid-80s--Pat Tabler? Tom Paciorek?---who had a ridiculous (like .450) BA with the bases juiced. Not sure how many HRs though

[Frayed Knot]

Yeah, I wanted to stick to elite type GS hitters as I'm sure there's somebody who HR's in what turned out

to be his only AB with the bags juiced in his career which would wildly throw off the numbers.





oe: I thought of Paciorek too, but it was Tabler who was the bags juiced monster.

109 [1-2-3] PAs with a slash line of: .489/.505/.693 // 1198 but just 2 HRs so less than a 2% GS rate

which is probably the best to expect from a guy with just 47 career HRs in 4,000+ PA

[batmagadanleadoff]

if I'm reading this correctly, Kingman's former Mets teammate, John Milner, hit 10 grand slams in 79 PAs with the bases loaded, a rate of 12.6%

[Frayed Knot]

Yup.

I had the idea to go as low as 10 GS but the easiest lists to find showed only those 13 players with 16 or more.

I think it's likely that we'd find several players with higher rates if more were included.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: I think it's likely that we'd find several players with higher rates if more were included.

Agreed. Milner came to my mind right away because I remember he had a knack for hitting grand slams. So I looked up his situational splits on BR.

[Frayed Knot]

I didn't look but Ventura probably has the fewest overall HRs (294) of those on the above list

and still that's well over double Milner's total of 131.

[Edgy MD]

=DocTee post_id=158854 time=1718154671 user_id=85]
I remember someone from the mid-80s--Pat Tabler? Tom Paciorek?---who had a ridiculous (like .450) BA with the bases juiced. Not sure how many HRs though

[Gwreck]

Frayed Knot wrote: I didn't look but Ventura probably has the fewest overall HRs (294) of those on the above list

By a wide margin. Carlos Lee had 358, Kingman in the mid 400s, Gehrig 493, and the rest are all in the 500 club.

[Frayed Knot]

108 RBI for Tabler in his 109 bases loaded PAs!!



How many RBIs do the Mets get out of 109 sacks juiced PAs? ... 25, maybe 30?

And at least 15 of those are from BBs and/or HBPs. Those are our most reliable run scoring plays.







oe: 34 in 69 PA to date this season (4 BB, 2 HBP)* or right about half Tabler's rate

SIGN TABLER NOW!!!!







* also 3 Sac Flies, so in 60 official ABs w/bases loaded the Mets have managed to knock in 25 runs on 11 hits [.183] seven of them singles

[MFS62]

Gil Hodges hit 14 career grand slams & was the NL All Time leader in that category at the time of his retirement.

What was his frequency?



Later

[Edgy MD]

			GS		PA w/123		Pct
	KINGMAN, DAVE		16		167		9.58%
	McCOVEY, WILLIE		18		196		9.18%
	LEE, CARLOS		17		207		8.21%
	RODRIGUEZ, ALEX		25		310		8.06%
	GEHRIG, LOU		23		292		7.88%
	WILLIAMS, TED		17		220		7.73%
	VENTURA, ROBIN		18		238		7.56%
	RAMIREZ, MANNY		21		285		7.37%
	BABE RUTH		16		224		7.14%
	FOXX, JIMMIE		17		242		7.02%
	>> HODGES, GIL		14		215		6.51%
	MURRAY, EDDIE		19		302		6.29%
	AARON, HANK		16		272		5.88%
	PUJOLS, ALBERT		16		315		5.08%

[MFS62]

Thank you.

Later

[Frayed Knot]

=MFS62 post_id=158905 time=1718211558 user_id=60]
Gil Hodges hit 14 career grand slams & was the NL All Time leader in that category at the time of his retirement.

What was his frequency?

[MFS62]

Please do.

Edgy understood what I meant.

Later

[ashie62]

Robin Ventura, I was at that game

[Frayed Knot]

=MFS62 post_id=158913 time=1718218073 user_id=60]
Please do.

Edgy understood what I meant.

[MFS62]

Frayed Knot wrote: Please do. Edgy understood what I meant. So did I.

The why did you respond the way you did, saying "I dunno"?

Later

[Frayed Knot]

Because the question had already been answered so I decided to make a joke instead.

[MFS62]

Oh. I like your music and movie references. That one escaped me.

Later