Trade deadline transactions 2022

[Edgy MD]

=Ceetar post_id=101746 time=1659384062 user_id=102]there's a non-zero chance that EVERY SINGLE PROSPECT currently in the minor leagues won't be as good as Juan Soto.

[Ceetar]

hell, there are whole Mets drafts that won't put up as much value as Juan Soto will these next 2+ years, and that's without the added benefit of a title.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

=Ceetar post_id=101746 time=1659384062 user_id=102]
And then you get Cohen to loosen the purse strings and hand them to Soto and ask that pig Adams to reserve the canyon of heroes for late October.

[Ceetar]

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=101751 time=1659385333 user_id=119]
=Ceetar post_id=101746 time=1659384062 user_id=102]
And then you get Cohen to loosen the purse strings and hand them to Soto and ask that pig Adams to reserve the canyon of heroes for late October.

[roger_that]

Edgy MD wrote: Seeing has how it's one season, and he managed to play well (excellently) when he was on the field, I'd say "seasons" of "nothing of value" is just bad analysis.

Well, we're parsing here, but what I wrote was that "they had (have) a lot of down seasons where they delivered nothing of value," with "they" being Cepeda and Trout collectively, so yes "they" did have more than one down season in their careers after age 23. Now of course you could argue that some of these injury-plagued seasons included periods of excellence--you might even argue that Cepeda's 1965 season (.176/1/5 in 34 ABs) included some bursts of excellence if you were so inclined--but I'll stand by my analysis.

[bmfc1]

Anyway... Trey Mancini to HOU

Frankie Montas and Lou Trivino (RP) to NYY.

[Frayed Knot]

Montas was probably the best SP after Castillo and, like Castillo, is under control through 2023. He and the reliever cost the Yanx four prospects, one a top-100 guy (#70) acc to mlb.com's current estimate.

[Ceetar]

The Mets really need a reliever, if not two, though seems like Trivino is mostly a throw-in. Two years of Montas for only one top-100 guy might actually be a steal.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=101751 time=1659385333 user_id=119]
=Ceetar post_id=101746 time=1659384062 user_id=102]
And then you get Cohen to loosen the purse strings and hand them to Soto and ask that pig Adams to reserve the canyon of heroes for late October.

[Edgy MD]

No, he can't hate all he wants to hate.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: No, he can't hate all he wants to hate.

Why not?

[Edgy MD]

Because we have rules and we've been down that road ad nauseum.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: Because we have rules and we've been down that road ad nauseum.

Oh. OK, then. I'll tell him not to hate Adams anymore.

[MFS62]

From Jeff Passsan:

Three-team trade! Full deal, according to sources. Houston gets: 1B/OF Trey Manicini and RHP Jayden Murray Baltimore gets: RHP Seth Johnson and Chayce McDermott Tampa Bay gets: CF Jose Siri

And as for the Montas deal, the MFYs still have their two highly rated shortstop prospects (Volpe and Peraza) to use in other deal(s).



Later

[Edgy MD]

Nobody needs to not hate anybody, as much as I'd recommend that. But we've all had mothers, fathers, spouses, and schoolteachers, and we all know how to behave in groups.



Let us all please refrain from dehumanizing rhetoric directed at fellow posters and classes of our fellow citizens, and let us refrain from bigotry. It's really easy, and if we won't or can't cooperate, there's a subforum where we can engage in all that. There are also massive stretches of the rest of the Internet. This is not that.



Let's go, Mets.

[Ceetar]

I've seen scores of posts in this very forum begging the Mets to wear the hats of an organization that kills black people, harasses homeless people, and pickets funerals, so spare me "time and place". How dare I use an negative adjective for an public official who recently publicly celebrated his fascist brutalization of homeless people.



Unfortunately, he WOULD need to be involved in a Soto-led Mets World Series parade.



But maybe they should just get a few relievers, anyone, do something productive.

[smg58]

=Ceetar post_id=101759 time=1659387327 user_id=102]Two years of Montas for only one top-100 guy might actually be a steal.

[smg58]

I would guess that the Yankees don't wish to part with their SS prospects after not going big in free agency because of them. Oh, the irony. How will their fans take it if Judge bolts for a different city? Or borough?

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Boston Red Sox traded C Christian Vazquez to Houston.

[Frayed Knot]

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=101786 time=1659397622 user_id=119]
Boston Red Sox traded C Christian Vazquez to Houston.

[MFS62]

Oakland's top prospect is a catcher and their current starter, Sean Murphy, is having a pretty good year. (.238/.314/.423 with 12 HR and 41 RBI)



From Keith Law's top 60:

Shea Langeliers, C, Oakland A's Previous ranking: No. 80, now at 50 Langeliers is a power-over-hit guy who can really catch and throw, enough that he could probably play regularly for Oakland right now if it ends up trading Sean Murphy at some point – and he's quite similar to Murphy in skills and expected production. The best of the players coming back from Atlanta in the Matt Olson trade, Langeliers should be a 20-homer catcher who walks enough to make up for modest batting averages and adds value across the board with his defense.

Just sayin'.

Later

[smg58]

The Braves just tied up Austin Riley for 10 and 215. Because that's what teams who don't wish to be laughing stocks do.

[smg58]

I hope the A's trade Murphy because Langeliers is on my fantasy team. (So is Murphy, but something tells me Langeliers has the better bat.)



I can't see the Mets trading for a catcher that is more than a two-month rental unless they trade Alvarez, but that would mean making one costly trade that necessitates making another one.

[Ceetar]

=smg58 post_id=101794 time=1659399489 user_id=62]
The Braves just tied up Austin Riley for 10 and 215. Because that's what teams who don't wish to be laughing stocks do.

[Edgy MD]

Plenty of teams sign guys to long-term valuable contracts and fail. It totally happens.



I find it hard to call a losing team a laughing stock. It's a closed system. There are always going to be as many losses as wins, even if everybody signs their Austin Riley.

[Frayed Knot]

The key, of course, is to pick the right guy(s) to bet on.

The Braves right now have Olson, Riley, Albies and Acuna under lengthy deals.



The Braves followed this same strategy once before but then reversed course part way through on the likes of Dan Uggla, Andrelton Simmons, Justin Upton, and one or two others.

[nymr83]

So, umm, do we get a big acquisition?



Still would love to see a reliever and a catcher. a starter would be nice too but less important as we are good there barring injury*



*but umm its the Mets, an injury is likely to occur 5 minutes after the deadline. Oh, look who is pitching an hour after the deadline? assume he'll pitch 1 inning this year when approaching deadline deals.

[Edgy MD]

I don't believe the that injuries and the Mets have a special relationship.



It seems that the Mets have looked to the trade deadline to shore up their roster with redundancy rather than going for a splashy upgrade. In the meantime, the Mets led the league in ERA in July even without whatshisname, and they have no room on their roster for David Peterson.



Catcher remains the best target for an upgrade, but the deal may not be there. Trades ain't everything.

[Frayed Knot]

I predict the Mets will add a two-time CY winner by tomorrow.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Frayed Knot wrote: I predict the Mets will add a two-time CY winner by tomorrow.

And not give up a single prospect to get him!