IGT 08/05 - Metropolitans at Marlins - Clear Skies Matinee

[Benjamin Grimm]

=Centerfield post_id=73579 time=1628195258 user_id=65]
Their approach at the plate is terrible. The results reflect this.



I don't know if the Mets have analytics to back up this approach, but it doesn't seem to be working.

[bmfc1]

Lefty Specialist wrote: Other teams got valuable bullpen arms at the deadline without giving up too much. This bothers me.

Same here. I understand that the Mets didn't have the prospect depth to make more than one high-level deal but Daniel Hudson only cost SD this and the Mets couldn't or didn't want to match:

[bLOCKQUOTE]San Diego parts with Thompson, a 2016 third-round draftee. The righty has made his first four big league appearances this season but spent the bulk of the year with Triple-A El Paso. A pure reliever, Thompson has tossed 26 2/3 innings over 23 appearances, working to a

5.74 ERA

with slightly lower than average strikeout and walk rates (21.8% and 7.3%, respectively) in that hitter-friendly environment. He's already on the 40-man roster and has a pair of minor league option years remaining beyond the current season.

Barley has been in the Padres organization since signing as a member of San Diego's massive 2016-17 international class. At one point, the speedster was a fairly well-regarded prospect, but he's struggled to hit in the low minors. Barley has posted higher than average strikeout rates throughout his professional career, and that's continued this season.

The 21-year-old is hitting .240/.333/.388 with a 29.4% strikeout percentage in Low-A. Entering the season, Eric Longenhagen of FanGraphs slotted Barley as the #28 talent in the Padres system.

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https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/padres-nationals-in-serious-discussions-on-potential-daniel-hudson-trade.htmlhttps://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/padres-nationals-in-serious-discussions-on-potential-daniel-hudson-trade.html (emphasis added)

[Edgy MD]

I have no problem with the bullpen. Asking any pitching staff to be perfect enough to support a team scoring one run through eight is always going to drive you crazy. The asylums are filled with former GMs who have gone down that path.



Avoid double plays, get runners in from third with less than two outs, and Heaven will smile on you.



Try to build a pitching staff that's good enough to support a team that hits into double plays and doesn't get runners in from third with less than two outs, and you will weep, alone, on the curb outside a bar that has shut down your tab.



In the rain. So much rain.

[ashie62]

Zack "Mr Cohen is on the phone."

[Fman99]

I gave up on this one after Familia barfed on the mound. That was it for me.

[bmfc1]

Edgy MD wrote: I have no problem with the bullpen.

Other than the front office, the manager, the hitting, the defense, the starting pitching, sure, no problem... except Lugo turned one-run deficits into multiple-run deficits twice this week. Familia gave up a run today. Within the last two weeks, Banda (RIPittsburg) and Hartlieb (somewhere) had to pitch the 8th inning and turned a close game into a rout. BP help was definitely needed and still is, unless you really, really trust Familia (I don't), think that this is just a blip for Lugo (let's hope but remember that he was injured and maybe he's hiding something), and think that Drew Smith and Y. Diaz are now shut-down middle-innings guys. I'd have pursued Hudson or Soria, especially b/c the BP is needed for 3 or 4 innings every damn game.

[Edgy MD]

There is no relief pitcher in the world who is going to turn a deficit into a lead.



Apart from maybe a slugger like Rick Camp, anyhow.

[bmfc1]

The hitting is also a problem, obviously a bigger problem--the biggest. They tried to address that w/Baez b/what I'm saying is that you can make multiple moves to help the team and they made one.

[Edgy MD]

Well, I'm certainly not suggesting one can not make more one move to help one's team. In fact, they did make more than one.

[bmfc1]

Hill? That was OK as a half-measure. I still think that didn't do enough. We'll see.

[Centerfield]

Trading for bats would have helped. Asking the ones we have to hit to all fields might have helped more.

[Benjamin Grimm]

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