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I use Flickr. The free version. It's gotten steadily worse over the years. Ads and more ads when there used to be none. And constant reminders to upgrade to a paid version to eliminate the ads, which, to tell you the truth, aren't much of a nuisance. Limits on the number of photos you can host when there used to be no limit when I first began using it.



But it gets the job done. It works if all you wanna do is host a photo to post to a web site. Like this one. That's all I use it for. There are a host of other options and features to interact with other users but I have no idea about that or how it works.


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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49455 time=1604191076 user_id=68]
I use Flickr. The free version. It's gotten steadily worse over the years. Ads and more ads when there used to be none. And constant reminders to upgrade to a paid version to eliminate the ads, which, to tell you the truth, aren't much of a nuisance. Limits on the number of photos you can host when there used to be no limit when I first began using it.



But it gets the job done. It works if all you wanna do is host a photo to post to a web site. Like this one. That's all I use it for. There are a host of other options and features to interact with other users but I have no idea about that or how it works.

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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

I uploaded the fuckin thing to flickr but impossible to share using my phone/the flickr app. I'll deal with is in 15 minutes when I get back to the desktop




Yeah. I try to stay away from working with photos on the smartphone. Hosting. Posting them here. It's a nightmare, if it even works. Same with posting links to articles.


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Chris Carter - the smart RA Dickey era one year outfielder seeking a medical degree on the side and who threw like a girl. Worst Met throwing arm I ever saw. Worse even than Mazzilli.


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You win. Double in his first met AB driving in winning run in 8th inning 6-run rally in a game that ended on an Ike Davis dive into the dugout.



When they showed him in the dugout waiting to get his first Met AB I assumed he was a guy who never even appeared for them. I had almost no memory. "The Animal"



Twas tonight's "Met Classick"


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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49464 time=1604192218 user_id=68]
Chris Carter - the smart RA Dickey era one year outfielder seeking a medical degree on the side and who threw like a girl. Worst Met throwing arm I ever saw. Worse even than Mazzilli.

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Edgy MD wrote:

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49464 time=1604192218 user_id=68]
Chris Carter - the smart RA Dickey era one year outfielder seeking a medical degree on the side and who threw like a girl. Worst Met throwing arm I ever saw. Worse even than Mazzilli.


That's a good topic for a thread. Did Mazzilli's get worse as his career progressed, or was it just consistently weak?




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I didn't really pick up on subtleties like that when I was a kid. I know Max's arm wasn't exactly subtle, but if the announcers weren't telling that I might not have noticed



I feel like my aesthetic sense as a fan is only coming out in these last 10 years. To an extent, watching how guys do what they do replaced whatever died in me when they destroyed Shea


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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49471 time=1604205850 user_id=68]How come you don't remember this? Maz was an every-day player and while Torre was managing, was the team's most featured player.

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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

I didn't really pick up on subtleties like that when I was a kid. I know Max's arm wasn't exactly subtle, but if the announcers weren't telling that I might not have noticed



I feel like my aesthetic sense as a fan is only coming out in these last 10 years. To an extent, watching how guys do what they do replaced whatever died in me when they destroyed Shea


From the SABR Bio Project:


There was some irony in the fact that the Most Valuable Player Award in the [1979 All-Star] game went not to Mazzilli but to Dave Parker, whose powerful arm in right field gunned down AL rivals at third base and home during the contest. It underscored the one major flaw in Mazzilli's game.



The joke with Mazzilli – one repeated by the Mets' former chairman M. Donald Grant in a 1979 Sports Illustrated article – was that he could throw with either arm but neither one was strong enough for the major leagues. Although Mazzilli worked hard to overcome this weakness – he eschewed the basket catch with men on base, and took to charging fly balls to get in good throwing position – opponents were never afraid to take an extra base and test his arm. After Keith Hernandez tagged up to score the winning run on a shallow fly ball to Mazzilli in center field in a 1983 game, the slow-footed Cardinals player remarked that Mazzilli was “the only guy I would attempt to score against [on such a play] in the big leagues.”



Mazzilli's throwing woes, along with a trade of Willie Montanez to Texas, had the Mets begin experimenting with playing Mazzilli at first base late in the 1979 season – the one place where throwing left-handed would have been an advantage. The organization also knew the day was coming when it would have to make room for a young center fielder then at Triple-A Tidewater, Mookie Wilson. Mazzilli, who once said he was “born to play center field,” framed his willingness to make the move as a sign of his respect for Torre.



“If Torre stays as manager, I'm willing to make the change,” he said. “If he wants it and he's here, I'll go to [instructional League in] Florida and work out there for as long as he wants me to.”




This article was written by Jon Springer



https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/lee-mazzilli/https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/lee-mazzilli/


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That Keith Hernandez quote is something else. Players don't go around publicly saying stuff like. That stays in the locker room. Even today, with the internet and all of the social media that didn't exist during Keith's playing days.


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I went to a game in 1980 that I've always remembered for Mazzilli making the kind of weak throw that illustrated what everybody meant by denigrating his throwing arm. Motivated by the turn this thread took, I looked up the game and I had my impression inverted and memory refreshed. Mazzilli was thrown out trying to score from second on a strong throw from right, confirming the criticism that he wasn't that great a baserunner, either.



https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1980/08/21/121007589.pdfhttps://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1980/08/21/121007589.pdf


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Amazinly, it was only days after that Hernandez play that the Pirates traded with the Mets for AAA outfielder Marvel Wynne and made Wynne their regular CFer right away


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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49505 time=1604260015 user_id=68]
That Keith Hernandez quote is something else. Players don't go around publicly saying stuff like. That stays in the locker room.

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I'd like the Keith of 2020 who called out Fernando Tatis, Jr., for swinging 3-and-0 with the bases loaded a seven-run lead as being "disrespectful" of an opponent to reckon the Keith of "hey, everybody, Mazzilli's got a rag for an arm!"


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Edgy MD wrote:

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49505 time=1604260015 user_id=68]
That Keith Hernandez quote is something else. Players don't go around publicly saying stuff like. That stays in the locker room.


Yeah, but Keef.
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I went and found this game. It was the Pirates home opener of 83, so not immediately before the Wynne trade. Keith's collision with Tony Pena made all the papers, and he had a mouthful to say after the game including chatting up his own glovework. hard to believe the Cardinals would trade him for Neil Allen in just 8 weeks. https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PIT/PIT198304120.shtmlhttps://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PIT/PIT198304120.shtml



http://www.beta.mbtn.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Keith2-Newspapers-com.png>



http://www.beta.mbtn.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Kieth1-1.png>



Being in Pittsburgh in 83, he was probably all coked up.


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