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IGT 06/19 - NYM @ COL - Are We Ourselves?


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Methead wrote:
nitey nite all


yeah, thanks for giving it up in the 3rd innin at least. cya tomorrow Mets!


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Anything can happen in this ballpark against this team's bullpen. Plus, we have Nimmo. We've got plenty of time to come back!

Vargas was due for an awful start, and he's struggled at Coors before. Robles just kinda stinks.


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That’s it for me.

Fuck Vargas. That piece of trash is the embodiment of Sandy Alderson and the Madoff Mets.


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Back in the crapper again.


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Sad fundies, rinse repeat...


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dudes we got 1 in and the bases loaded Conforto up.


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Frazier grounds out to end the threat


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I'm a LOT more pissed at Cabrera than Vargas. He came up in the ninth against a pitcher beating himself as so many Rockies relievers have. Their only current reliever pitching well had already been used, and the Mets were down by four.

Against Davis.

Who had walked four guys and given up four runs in a third of an inning last time out.

So this time, he bears in against the free-swinging José Reyes ... and walks hims! Tying run on double deck.

All of Colorado is starting to feel dread and pressure, and when Amed Rosario taps a soft grounder to the best fielding third baseman on earth, he throws it down the line. Up comes Cabrera with the tying run on deck!

100% of everybody affiliated with the sad, sad Colorado cause is thinking "Here we go AGAIN!" Desperate for something, ANYTHING, to avert disaster, Bud Black gets one of his starters up in the pen. It's a starter having a crap year, but it's time poor Bud tries something. He's desperate.

And then Davis falls behind 2-0. What you do here is let a guy on his heels beat himself. Plus, any 13-year-old knows that with the tying run behind you in the ninth, a walk is a good as a homerun. It's better than a homerun, because the next guy is facing a more fatigued and demoralized pitcher, with the nuisance of guys on the bags.

Next pitch comes in at the shins ... and for some unfathomable reason, Cabrera swung.

All Vargas did was fail. Are we ourselves, indeed.


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Edgy MD wrote:
I'm a LOT more pissed at Cabrera than Vargas. He came up in the ninth against a pitcher beating himself as so many Rockies relievers have. Their only current reliever pitching well had already been used, and the Mets were down by four.

Against Davis.

Who had walked four guys and given up four runs in a third of an inning last time out.

So this time, he bears in against the free-swinging José Reyes ... and walks hims! Tying run on double deck.

All of Colorado is starting to feel dread and pressure, and when Amed Rosario taps a soft grounder to the best fielding third baseman on earth, he throws it down the line. Up comes Cabrera with the tying run on deck!

100% of everybody affiliated with the sad, sad Colorado cause is thinking "Here we go AGAIN!" Desperate for something, ANYTHING, to avert disaster, Bud Black gets one of his starters up in the pen. It's a starter having a crap year, but it's time poor Bud tries something. He's desperate.

And then Davis falls behind 2-0. What you do here is let a guy on his heels beat himself. Plus, any 13-year-old knows that with the tying run behind you in the ninth, a walk is a good as a homerun. It's better than a homerun, because the next guy is facing a more fatigued and demoralized pitcher, with the nuisance of guys on the bags.

Next pitch comes in at the shins ... and for some unfathomable reason, Cabrera swung.

All Vargas did was fail. Are we ourselves, indeed.


I had long since gone to bed when this went down. That is infuriating indeed.

But this happens like, all the time with this team.


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Hitting is hard. Sometimes you gotta identify your pitch and try to get on, even on 2-0 or 3-0. Sometimes it's your best shot. If he'd taken the strike, it's 2-1. He might not get another hittable pitch.

I mean, he threw the same fastball, just a smidge slower with a bit less spin, but instead of off the plate outside, it was dead center, just at the bottom of the zone. But that's classic pitch sequencing right? Throw a ball high to raise the eye level, and then throw one low and they swing over it. The pitch itself was a crappier pitch, which probably wasn't by design. If it'd dropped as much as the first two, Cabrera swings over it completely and gets another shot.

But it was a pitch that was dead center with 9 inches of vertical movement. Hitting is hard.


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Hitting is hard.

When you swing at crap a foot and a half off the plate and your bat
isn't a foot and a half longer. Conforto left like a half dozen men on
last night.


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d'Kong76 wrote:
Hitting is hard.

When you swing at crap a foot and a half off the plate and your bat
isn't a foot and a half longer. Conforto left like a half dozen men on
last night.


Sure, but Cabrera swung at a dead center pitch at the bottom of the zone. a strike.


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Based on 2018 numbers, once a guy reaches 2-0, his OBP for the at-bat is .506, with a .225 walk rate. At this point, he has already kind of won the at-bat, tilting the odds from the pitcher's favor to his own, when all he has to do is get on any way he can.

Forgetting about the fact that this is a pitcher struggling with his control, if he takes the and it's a strike right down the pipe his On-Base-Percentage going forward from there is still .387.

But put that ball in play, and his OBP (and batting average) is .338.

Leave the bat on your shoulder! Make him throw a strike! Science!


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Officially, 5 LOB... wouldn't want to exaggerate.


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I can smell the chemicals
Blinding me with science, science
Science
Science


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