2017 Stadium Honors (Retired Numbers/HOF/Statues) Quiz

[stevejrogers]

HahnSolo wrote: Rangers Michael Young?

Also a previous year guy

[stevejrogers]

41Forever wrote: I bet the Rangers number was newly minted Hall of Famer Ivan Rodriguez.

[HahnSolo]

Could you update who we're still looking for?

Twins HOF -- Torii Hunter?

[stevejrogers]

Update and hints

This year 6 numbers were retired:

_____ MFYs
David Ortiz DH #34 Boston Red Sox (HahnSolo)
Mark Buehrle SP #56 Chicago White Sox (41Forever)
Ivan Rodriguez C #7 Texas Rangers (41Forever)
_____ Seattle Mariners (Hint, could make Cooperstown this year)
Frank Robinson Mgr #20 Cleveland Indians (41Forever)

There were 13 additions to various team HOFs

_____ St Louis Cardinals (Hint, Gashouse Gang legend)
_____ St Louis Cardinals (Hint, became quite annoying starting in the 1990s)
_____ St Louis Cardinals (Hint, HIGHLY controversial pick)
_____ Minnesota Twins (Met connection)
_____ Minnesota Twins (Not directly, but has MFY connections)
_____ Washington Nationals (Never actually played a game in the city of Washington)
_____ Washington Nationals (Was a Nat for only two years)
_____ Milwaukee Brewers (I honestly don't know...maybe he's a Tim Bogar like guy for the 2000s Brewers? Did make two ASGs though)
_____ Brewers's Braves Roll of Honor (Star of the 1957-1958 WS)
_____ MFYs
_____ Anaheim Angels (Could be in Cooperstown this summer)
_____ San Francisco Giants (Very controversial)
_____ San Diego Padres (He was a trader)

Bonus, there was a team that had a HOF enshrinement announced, but had to rescind it close to the date of the ceremony. Name the team and person.
Pete Rose 1B Philadelphia Phillies (HahnSolo)

There have been 8 new statues installed in and outside stadiums

_____ Atlanta Braves (A new variation on a classic)
_____ Atlanta Braves (Non player)
_____ Cleveland Indians (Non player)
_____ Cleveland Indians (HOFer)
Jackie Robinson 2B Los Angeles Dodgers (JCL)
_____ Minnesota Twins (Non player)
Ken Griffey, Jr OF Seattle Mariners (Edgy)
_____ Cincinnati Reds (Very controversial, even more so after the ceremony!)

Wrong Guesses:
Greg Maddux (Edgy) Number retired and inducted into Braves HOF back in 2009, same year his number was co-retired with Ferguson Jenkins by the Cubs.
Andy Pettitte (Edgy) MFY had number retired and Monument Park induction back in 2015
Omar Vizquel (ABS) Indians did induct him into their Hall back in 2014
Jim Thome (ABS) A year late, Indians inducted him to their Hall, and added a statue to Progressive Field's Heritage Park back in 2016. Phillies would do the same with their Wall of Honor the same year
Scott Rolen (Edgy) No team has sought to honor Rolen yet!
Michael Young (HahnSolo) Inducted into the Ranger Hall in 2016
Torri Hunter (HahnSolo) Inducted into the Twin Hall in 2016

[Guest 41Forever]

Ah, the mariners hint makes me think Edgar Martinez!

[stevejrogers]

41Forever wrote: Ah, the mariners hint makes me think Edgar Martinez!

Yup. Probably the two greatest DHs in history got their numbers retired in the same year!

[HahnSolo]

Padres Jack McKeon

[Edgy MD]

Braves: Jon Schuerholz.

[stevejrogers]

Edgy MD wrote: Braves: Jon Schuerholz.

2016!

[stevejrogers]

HahnSolo wrote: Padres Jack McKeon

Yup!

[Guest 41Forever]

Having scored with Ivan Rodriguez with the Rangers, I'll try him again with the Nationals as a team HOF inductee.

[stevejrogers]

41Forever wrote: Having scored with Ivan Rodriguez with the Rangers, I'll try him again with the Nationals as a team HOF inductee.

Yup, Pudge is on their Ring of Honor.

[Guest 41Forever]

SteveJRogers wrote: 41Forever wrote: Having scored with Ivan Rodriguez with the Rangers, I'll try him again with the Nationals as a team HOF inductee. Yup, Pudge is on their Ring of Honor.

This one doesn't seem justified. Would be as if the Mets put Rickey Henderson in the team's Hall of Fame.

[Zvon]

SteveJRogers wrote: HahnSolo wrote: The rescinded HOF honor was the Phillies/Pete Rose. Yup!

Why did they do this?

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: The Dodgers did a Jackie Robinson statue that's as good as any fake plaza with a stupid 42

Ha!

[stevejrogers]

41Forever wrote: 41Forever wrote: Having scored with Ivan Rodriguez with the Rangers, I'll try him again with the Nationals as a team HOF inductee. Yup, Pudge is on their Ring of Honor. This one doesn't seem justified. Would be as if the Mets put Rickey Henderson in the team's Hall of Fame.

I agree. I think the rational was that he “made it cool to come to the Nats” or something like that.

The other one is a bit more egregious!

[Guest 41Forever]

SteveJRogers wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: Having scored with Ivan Rodriguez with the Rangers, I'll try him again with the Nationals as a team HOF inductee. Yup, Pudge is on their Ring of Honor. This one doesn't seem justified. Would be as if the Mets put Rickey Henderson in the team's Hall of Fame. I agree. I think the rational was that he “made it cool to come to the Nats” or something like that. The other one is a bit more egregious!

Oh my, did they do Raines, too?

[HahnSolo]

The Yankee is Jeter right?

Rose's HOF induction was cancelled shortly after news of his promiscuity with underage girls as a player broke.

[Zvon]

HahnSolo wrote: The Yankee is Jeter right? Rose's HOF induction was cancelled shortly after news of his promiscuity with underage girls as a player broke.

Oh, I forgot about that. Yep, that'll do it.

[stevejrogers]

The rescinded HOF honor was the Phillies/Pete Rose. Yup! Why did they do this?

This broke a few weeks before the ceremony date:

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20208447/woman-accuses-pete-rose-statutory-rape

[stevejrogers]

41Forever wrote: 41Forever wrote: 41Forever wrote: Having scored with Ivan Rodriguez with the Rangers, I'll try him again with the Nationals as a team HOF inductee. Yup, Pudge is on their Ring of Honor. This one doesn't seem justified. Would be as if the Mets put Rickey Henderson in the team's Hall of Fame. I agree. I think the rational was that he “made it cool to come to the Nats” or something like that. The other one is a bit more egregious! Oh my, did they do Raines, too?

Si

[Zvon]

The rescinded HOF honor was the Phillies/Pete Rose. Yup! Why did they do this? This broke a few weeks before the ceremony date: http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20208447/woman-accuses-pete-rose-statutory-rape

I see he admits to having sex with the girl, but thought that she was 16 at the time (not that that makes it right. He was a married man). And then she says they had sex in other states besides Ohio? Boy, that young gal gets around. Did Pete pay for the travel expenses? She doesn't bother to say, as well as which states they found hay to roll around in. Sounds a little fishy to me. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if he did know she was younger and still decided to dip his stick.

Dowd's statement that Rose boinked 12-14 year old girls (plural) sounds like nothing but trumped up bullshit. But then Rose won't answer any questions about it under oath? More fishy business. If that's true, I feel its a way worse offense than his gambling.

It'll be interesting to see how his suit against Dowd goes. I've already gone on record saying he won't get in until after he's pushing up daisies. Then at some point he will get in, warts and all.

Don't mean to sidetrack the thread. Carry on.

[Edgy MD]

John Dowd works for President Trump, when most Washington attorneys wouldn't touch him, so I'm reluctant to endorse him for anything. And he's 76 now, and facts from days past tend to get rubbery as time recedes and arteries harden, but the Dowd Report is 28 years old, and in substance, it's held up. Every part of it.

That Rose's defense is reduced to arguing not against the basic facts of the case, which he acknowledges, but against nuance of what he knew and what state he was in, suggests he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

[HahnSolo]

Need a ruling on my Jeter guess.

And while we are here... controversial SF Giant -- Barry Bonds?

[stevejrogers]

HahnSolo wrote: Need a ruling on my Jeter guess. And while we are here... controversial SF Giant -- Barry Bonds?

I thought I said yes?

And yeah to Bonds being added to the Giants’ Wall of Honor.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

The rescinded HOF honor was the Phillies/Pete Rose. Yup! Why did they do this? This broke a few weeks before the ceremony date: http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20208447/woman-accuses-pete-rose-statutory-rape

Having sex with a minor, half his age when he was a married father of 2 children; what a degenerate, scumbag Pete Rose was (is). Betting on games, being a prolific liar, and an egotistical ass pales in comparison to statutory rape.

[Zvon]

Edgy MD wrote: {....the Dowd Report is 28 years old, and in substance, it's held up. Every part of it.}

But doesn't that only deal with his gambling?

Rockin' Doc wrote: Having sex with a minor, half his age when he was a married father of 2 children; what a degenerate, scumbag Pete Rose was (is). Betting on games, being a prolific liar, and an egotistical ass pales in comparison to statutory rape.

I totally agree, as I said up there^. Well, kinda said.
I thought the Dowd thing just dealt with his gambling issues. Then after that we learned what a liar and BIG headed idiot he was.

[Edgy MD]

Zvon wrote: Edgy MD wrote: {....the Dowd Report is 28 years old, and in substance, it's held up. Every part of it.} But doesn't that only deal with his gambling?

Sure, but this is information that Dowd appears to have gotten as a sleezy little bonus during the gambling investigation. He may have even passed it on to authorities.

[Zvon]

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: {....the Dowd Report is 28 years old, and in substance, it's held up. Every part of it.} But doesn't that only deal with his gambling? Sure, but this is information that Dowd appears to have gotten as a sleezy little bonus during the gambling investigation. He may have even passed it on to authorities.

If all he did was pass it on to authorities, the proper thing to do, I would not be typing all this. But come on. Dropping a bomb that he was doing 12-14 year old kids flippantly on a radio talk show, and considering the timing, it's akin to propaganda.
I don't like Dowd. Not too thrilled with Petener either, but I have to respect his baseball accomplishments. And after '73 he'd have had to accomplished a lot to rise to any level of respect in my book.

[Edgy MD]

I don't know. If you're confident in the information, and it's relevant to the question at hand, you share it. And as it turns that he has the source to back it up, I'm not sure what the problem is.

[Zvon]

Edgy MD wrote: I don't know. If you're confident in the information, and it's relevant to the question at hand, you share it. And as it turns that he has the source to back it up, I'm not sure what the problem is.

Then you're not reading what I type. Dowd should share his info through the proper channels, not as radio gossip. Maybe he did, and if he did I wouldn't be considering it to be gossip ( there's no evidence of that), but that radio thing, THE TIMING! Pete was just about to be allowed back into a baseball spotlight and Dowd smacks him down, while making it sound like the allegations of statutory rape were a side bar ("....isn't that lovely?").