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I like the Post's theory that they may just cut Estrada loose rather than offer him offer him arbitration. Basically just dumping Mota. I keep reading about the Mets having interest in Laird so maybe Omar's trying to swing that deal? But if they keep Estrada keep in mind that although his defense (according to the Brewers fans) was atrocious, he did have a bone spur last season and has since had it removed. Problem solved or at least addressed? Maybe. The Post article also said that Omar has not dismissed out of hand giving Castro a shot a the starting job. Of course thae question of Castro staying healthy enough to do that is a big one.
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="Edgy DC"]What I want to say is that's untrue. Good pitchers tend to win. Bad pitchers tend to lose. But exceptions are everywhere while we have better measures of goodness and badness that correct for those factors that corrupt wins and losses. Okay - tend. I'll still take a pitcher who has a winning record and higher ERA over 4 years with a bad team than a pitcher with a lower ERA and a losing record over 4 years with a mediocre team. ="Edgy DC"]We'll have to get 1983 Little Falls manager Mike Cubbage on the phone. Sounds good - I'll defer to him. ="Edgy DC"]Kent's a great hitter and I felt that way when the Mets dealt him. Greatest is tough row. I can't go there again.
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="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Who IYO deserves to win? Rollins.
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They all have to with luck. Maybe one is a bit more accurate than another but there are enough variables with all of them. I like wins and losses. Say what you want but good pitchers win and bad pitchers lose (Steve Carlton '72 Phillies). I don't know how else to explain Koosman's numbers except to say that the '77 team was the worst of the bunch. Berenyi articles aside, I don't think Williams was considered to be a big deal. Maybe because of Abner who was drafted in '84 (from Mechanicsburg, PA - knew that without looking it up - see I told you I used to pay attention back then)? RE: Kent - we were talking about him being one of, if not the, greatest hitting secondbasemen of all-time. You disagreed.
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Yeah, well there is that.
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You and I debated Jeff Kent's 'greatness' some time ago and I kept bringing up RBIs and you kept 'bleah'-ing those as well. Individual wins/losses is a valid statistic, especially when weighed against a teams total record.
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He was hurt at the beginning and most of last year. Pitching with a torn hamstring I believe. At the end when he started pitching more effectively I surmised that he had finally started feeling better. Besides the fact that he was pretty good before he got here.
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I'm thinking it might happen. The Gold Glove has given me hope.
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Perhaps Eddie Williams was highly regarded when drafted but just the fact that I don't remember him tells me that at the time he was traded he was not a guy ticketed for major league stardom. I used to pay attention back then. And I'll dispute Berenyi and Zambarano being comparable as well. Zambrano was 28 when acquired and had gone 35-27 over his four years with a Tampa Bay club that had a record of 250-396 during his time with them. Berenyi was a year older than Victor and had a career W/L of 32-47 (I calculated wrong in my earlier post) with a Reds team that was almost .500 (290-304) during his tenure. Victor was winning with a bad team, Bruce was struggling with a struggler.
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Lolich was done by the time he got here, Bereyni had a career record of 29-40 when he got here. Neither guy was acquired for a top prospect anyway. I'll give you Zambrano. I'm talking about a 1 or 2 guy. Dontrelle, Bedard, Santana.
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I expect a much better year out of Schoenweiss.
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I don't get so worked up over 'can't-miss-prospects'. I used to but then realized that for every Nolan Ryan, Amos Otis, Ken Singleton and Kevin Mitchell there are a dozen David Wests, Alex Ochoas, Alex Escobars, Bill Pulsiphers, Tim Learys, Paul Wilsons, Octavio Dotels and Ryan Thompsons. Omar, trade whoever you need to and get us a frontline starter.
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Getting his faced smashed in when his taxi crashed. Oh, well. Sorry about that. Buh-bye.
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Stay, Go, or Call it Quits: 2007-2008 Offseason
soupcan replied to Valadius's topic in New York Mets Talk
And I'm guessing it nixes Contreras being traded. -
I just hope that when he pitches against the Mets that treat him like the Braves did when he was pitching for the Mets. Because if they don't I swear I'll be pulling my hair completely out of my head.
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Oh joy.
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I'm the mad poster this week because I can't stand being Tom Glavine.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: As for Glavine, scram. See your ass at Shea next year. Bring your earplugs. Exactly. ="Iubitul"]In other news, MLB has announced the renewed expansion of the strike zone by 5 inches toward first base.... Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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Steve, Thanks for the effort but I want aerials. Break out that 'copter and go get some shots.
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Eh. I gave it 2 & 1/2. I liked it okay when I saw it, but it did little to stand out among these types of movies. The true critics are my kids who were also less than impressed.
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I'm trying to understand the Government's perjury case here. -In 2000 Bonds tested positive on a steroid test. -When questioned about it in '03, he said he was unaware of it - "I've never seen those documents before" - and had had no knowledge of the test. -He admitted taking the cream and the clear but denied knowing they were steroids. So are the Feds saying that he lied about knowing that the cream and the clear were steroids because he knew that he had tested positive on that test? Or are they not questioning his knowledge about the cream and the clear but saying that he lied about taking and knowing the results of the steroid test? Anybody?
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="Edgy DC"]He was something. He was and is the second-most productive player in Mets history. Then he was and is a drug addict. For a few years, he was a journeyman middlling-to-back-end starting pitcher relying on his curve to get outs. There's still plenty to be thankful for while lamenting what wasn't. Yes, of course. I agree with you. He was something. Its what he could've been that gets me. I was a Mets fan fresh from the late '70s early '80s and he was a 20 year-old, sure fire, no doubt, home-grown first ballot Hall-of Famer. He was the next Tom Seaver. He was. I had a #16 jersey that I wore, he and I are were (still are in fact) the same age. I had a photograph of me in the foreground of his 10 story Nike ad on West 42nd street, blown up and hung on my wall. I was the biggest Dwight Gooden fan out there. I invested so much into him that when he destroyed that promise he just crushed me. The rational adult in me understands life and addiction but the young , naive Mets fan still has a hard time with it.
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metirish wrote: I wonder if Gooden ever looks at Clemens and thinks that could have been me, but maybe he has no regrets. Ding! Ding! Ding! That's exactly why Gooden pisses me off. He was younger and better than Clemens when both started out. He coulda been sumthin'.
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metsguyinmichigan wrote: All I could say was "Gooden vs. Andujar." Cool.
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Booooooo!
