]We're on pace for 728 RS, our best, again, since 2000 (807), and good for a tie for 6th in the NL, 16th in the majors. That's indisputably good. Not indisputably good. 6th in the NL is above average, true, but 16th out of 30 teams is not good, it's average. And we had this argument already, and JD made many salient points about the blowouts which contributed to this. Rotty, I think you are thinking with your heart too much. Just take a look at what has happened since Arizona, please. W 1-0, L 2-1, L 4-1, W 6-4, L 8-2, L 3-1, L 4-2, L 5-4, W 7-1, L 4-2, L 3-1, L 4-3, L 5-0 That's 31 runs in 13 games, or 2.38 runs per game, including a 7 spot and a 6 spot. I don't think Piazza and Cameron make a huge difference when inserted back into the lineup either. And we pulled this off during a stretch which was easily the best chance to make the playoffs since 2001. _____________________________ This post had the designation 159) Bob Shaw