]We sound kind of stupid from time to time, trying to voice the argument that the Yankees win too many pennants, or are ungracious winners, or that they spend too much money on acquiring quality players for their team, and on and on. Who is this we? I don't think you'll find one person on this forum who posted the line "The Yankees win too many pennants." I doubt seriously you'll find "ungracious winners" either. As for the "too much money", everyone here realizes that the Mets have the 3rd highest payroll. ] then all we Yankee-haters would have to cling to would be that sour-grapes winning-sucks stuff on our side, *sigh* Can you spell strawman? I think the point you were trying to make is that we, as Mets fan, use all of the above that I've quoted as things to say to avoid saying this: ]No, it's that he's such an obnoxious, insensitive, overbearing, scowling, self-righteous, micromanaging, tyrannical, meddling, superior son of a bitch that gives strength to Yankee-haters everywhere. I really disagree. But then maybe you have sniffed out the real reason behind everything a Met fan says about the Yankees. You could have us all figured out.