Zvon

I dont know if you picked these up yet thru the thread or not, but they were on the pg1 list. I have old backup CDs from my old PC with many Met images, and I found these on one of those. Scans from the 2000 yeabook, i think. Velandia Cammack (i dont mean to be a noodge but if your list was in alphabetical order it would be much easier and faster to reference)

Dont ask coobie........ Im sure they are wearing underwear. Well,....almost positive.

="Edgy DC"]Nice to see hear from you again. I echo edge. Heres that card pic without the clutter.

Im gonna make it an easy week for me and a nod to scooby and go with Hubie Brooks this week. I did find another pic of him, so now i have 2. not counting this one^

lmao. great choice for the Piazza pic JD. I know, it does show his footware.

Bret Sabermetric wrote: You really think I'm equally safe in discussing Omar's faults as GM as I am in discussing George Weiss's? I should hope so. Its a Met board, for cryin out loud. Where else would u go to vent? I wont cross swords with you at this point on that subject because Im not only willing to give Omar enuff rope, Ill toss it to him. If he hangs himself with it, we'll talk about it. lol

LMAO if i did that ROTF thing I would now. But I dont. Scares my pets.

Johnny Dickshot wrote: The Payson thing to me was that she and Grant sort of fancied themselves as sportsmen and not businessmen. This whole Met team thing was like a public park or museum they endowed, only they were surprised and little offended when the museum guards and gift-shop employees asked for raises. well put.

......more importantly.... did Mookie wear underwear? HA! I kid. Thru details in my drawings I did notice the Mets wore Ponys as well as other shoes thru the mid eighties. Yearbooks should be a good indicator if they were wearing a uniform shoe at any point. Call me a girlyman, but I miss the ol sturrup look.

Bret Sabermetric wrote: Okay, that's cool, Zvon. I'd like to examine what, in your opinion, was so awful about these particular people and their policies. I think thats kool. Didnt know their policies. Just what they did or didnt do for the Mets. Or what they could have done and didnt. Or, in the case of Green, what Id hoped they could do. As people, I dont know if I could even label Grant as awful. I wouldnt argue it tho. Bret Sabermetric wrote: I'm interested in discussing this now for a variety of reasons, KC. Some of it is that it seems much safer than examining the same issues directly with the current ownership/management, since I can't seem to find a way to discuss that topic without very quickly getting into a discussion about the morals of our mothers and other hurtful topics. Im not adverse to talking of current situations. I just would rather not spend my time focusing on negative aspects with my slow typing abilities and limited time online. If I could dictate this stuff youd all get an earful. Bret Sabermetric wrote: But mainly my interest stems from two things that occured over the past weekend: 1) Widey's discussion of George Weiss's very foolish, short-sighted, money-grubbing attitude towards paying his players in the 1960s, which Bing Devine struggled to correct, leading directly to the single most satisfying event in my lifetime as a baseball fan and 2) Frank Thomas's account, which we should be discussing sometime soon, which tells of his horrendous interactions with a wide variety of foolish, short-sighted money-grubbing GMs, whom he describes (accurately, IMO) as cheap, lying hypocrites. Not all of Thomas's GMs were Met GMs of course (he seemed to have a fair relationship with them, though he describes the Cubs' GM as the only one he had any personal respect for). But I got very angry reading Thomas's account of how he was mistreated: he was perhaps one of the dozen best sluggers in the known universe, and he had to struggle to be paid a living wage. It seems to me Thomas's struggles with a series of rapacious owners and GMs are very easy to condemn from our enlightened vantage point. Slave-owners, whether of the 1850s or the 1950s, are easy targets for our anger, but at the time they had their defenders. If we examine closely what it is to our enlightened eyes that seems so blindingly obviously wrong about these people of the dim and distant past, maybe we can agree that we also might be unenlightened abot our present situation. maybe not. Maybe we are the first generation not to live with unenlightened owners and GMs, though I think their behavior may not be as justifiable as we perceive. But if we look at their past counterparts, in whom we may not feel so invested, maybe we'll see something that resonates for us. It's worth a try. I agree it is. But going back to the age of the dinosaurs aint gonna help as far as making any reasonable analogy to how business is currently being conducted.

Edgy DC wrote: You scan for "Mookie" photos, you get a lot of pets. That is a neat pic^ I did a google and found the one up there with Foster, but 99.9% of the results were that 86WS Mookie/Buckner pic. After afew pages of that i was outta there.(there were many pages left too.)

cooby wrote: Have you ever looked at photos from 1986 and wonder if Kevin Mitchell is wearing underwear? LMAOOOOOOO. Cant say that I have. What do ya look for? seams?

look at the genuine expressions of joy in that one.

cooby wrote: Just noticing this one for the first time-tremendous! I was thrilled with that myself. that was a late inning lucky find. (found it this week) I believe a person with the last name of Bettmann took that photo.

ScarletKnight41 wrote: ="Zvon"]I have a DGW here im dyin to post......Mr. Whitham? Is it different from the one I posted on P. 7? oh, my bad. Thats it. I guess mine didnt have the frame look. Or maybe i cropped it out. Sorry. Thanks for that 1 SK. I do love that pic.

Willets Point wrote: Along with my new computer I have a new printer/scanner I just installed today and got to test it out on this picture of Mookie Wilson: awsum pic! Thanks 4 sharin that WP! Ive cropped some of these down myself, cuz original scans can be sooooo huge.

i dunno. every team has their business end and every team can be critically appraised as to how they conduct their business. This is something Im aware of, but I dont root or boo a front office ( well, if they step out onto the field and deserve it, imo, I would.) I observe it. I form my opinions and beliefs. I may have disliked more owners of the Mets than I have liked overall. GM's....same deal. I dont let this effect my love for the Mets and what the team has meant to me. And some teams that have taken the field in their name have been absolutedismalically putrid. All teams make rediculous and stupid moves from time to time, and yes, the Mets may be above average in that department. I dunno, but i think if you ask a diehard fan of any team they will have a list of grievances worthy to match any Met fan. See, even when I am being critical of ownership or managment, its all still above the solid foundation that makes me orange and blue thru and thru. the Mets' (I wont say "most deeply flawed") most disappointing: (IMO) manager : Dallas Green GM : Joe McDonald Owner : M.D.Grant / Lorinda de Roulet / Fred Wilpon, after Doubleday left, and his son was still all up in the pots and pans.

and of course we shall once again revisit game 6....afew times.

Bags is getting the pinetarry end of the bat in that situation.

SI Metman wrote: ="Zvon"]haHA..this is neat. Casey Stengel played with Johnny Cooney for the 1925 Boston Braves Johnny Cooney played with Warren Spahn for the 1942 Boston Braves Warren Spahn played with Sandy Alomar for the 1964 Milwaukee Braves Sandy Alomar played with Willie Randolph for the 1976 New York Yankees and you even got one of Willie's coaches in there. yea,.......I meant to do that. heehee