Ceetar wrote: i call hogwash mostly. They don't want it back. This, pretty much. I left the Mets in 77 cause of the Seaver trade. Still liked them, but they got very little of my $$, as in I stopped supporting them in that way. They still got my attention through televised games (although I didn't watch anywhere near the amount of game I used to), box scores, baseball cards and such. I was pissed at the front office, and I decided I would not support the team until we got new owners. I came around slowly as the team moved into the 80s. Players like Mookie Wilson and Hubie Brooks got my attention. And it's not like Steve Henderson or Doug Flynn didn't, I just unfairly held a slight resentment towards them because of how they arrived. I was a fan of both, more-so Flynn, but I could never really get past the Seaver connection. During all this ownership did shift and I could follow my team again in what I considered an honorable fashion. When they got Seaver back and went after Keith I was as all in as I ever was. Some people, when they feel passionate about something and they get burned, shut down their emotions completely so that the the subject never has a chance to hurt them again. And some people don't. It's a relative thing, and like Ceetar says, they don't want it back. They have shut themselves off in regards to the Mets.