Ceetar

It's irrelevant as he's not starting. I imagine he's already shut it down and didn't do his inbetween start work and what not.

Ashie62 wrote: Giants were fine til Beltran showed up.. Beltran as a Giant: .335/.379/.576 OPS .955

Ashie62 wrote: Ceetar wrote: Collins raved about how he'd learned from his mistakes managing elsewhere. Let's hope he's learning something here for next year. Do you feel like the team quit on him? not quit. They're not playing to the same level or intensity they were in July. But I'm not sure that's reasonable to expect, all things considered.

Collins raved about how he'd learned from his mistakes managing elsewhere. Let's hope he's learning something here for next year.

[bigpurple:1wpmhjmc]Igarashi just came in with the bases loaded and no out and didn't give up a run.[/bigpurple:1wpmhjmc]

Edgy DC wrote: Wayne and Howie complaining at length about the home plate ump's calls. Gary too. Schwinden missed that it was ball four. Gary: "Well he doesn't tell anyone else when it's a ball, why should he tell Schwinden?" "He's called probably 10000 walks in his career, that was Schwinden's first. give him a break!"

Wright smacks a single up the middle to drive in Reyes, hopefully not for the last time ever, and Evans doubles in two more.

Schwinden gives up a lead-off double small-balled into a run. second inning he makes an error with two outs, stolen base and a single drives him home. 1 out so far in the third.

Didn't make it this weekend, pondering seeing it in San Diego next weekend.

Edgy DC wrote: Pascucci: "Everybody's got a concussion and I can't buy a start." He's this year's Mike Hessman or something.

Gwreck wrote: ...and is extremely unlikely to leave the White Sox. sure, but he's a free agent on that list.

Frayed Knot wrote: Ceetar wrote: Actually, give me Mark Buehrle in a heartbeat. Because even if he sucked as much as Pelfrey he'd be more tolerable simply on account of his bad games only taking half as long. Buehrle's been a pretty consistenty good pitcher for a long time.

Actually, give me Mark Buehrle in a heartbeat.

bmfc1 wrote: I have completed confidence that Sandy Alderson and Jonah Hill will be able to find a better use for a roster spot than Mike Pelfrey. And if they do, Santana is probably healthy, coupled with Niese and Dickey and Gee the Mets should be right there to compete for the division.

It's one thing to suggest it, another to actually negotiate it. And of course, Reyes can then take that number to the Mets, who maybe won't quite match it, but could adjust their offer as a result.

Edgy DC wrote: Just my opinion, but I imagine back channel tampering goes on all the time. Probably. Think they get explicit though, or is it just "wink wink, we REALLY like that Jose guy. you guys close to something with the mets?"

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I spent time last week with a former New York sports reporter who covered the Mets for a while in the Omar era. He said his gut feeling was that some team was going to offer Reyes stupid money that that Mets would not match. He said Alderson is "too smart" to throw crazy money at a player who is so prone to injuries. That was just his gut feeling from knowing the people involved. I tried to avoid pestering him with too many Mets questions, but he did say that Dickey was as nice a guy as you can imagine. Piazza, too. That of course, leaves out the idea that the Mets could very well sign him well before he's even allowed to talk to other teams. Can Reyes bank on some team throwing stupid money his way and wait out a very good offer from the Mets? I think not.

metirish wrote: Pelfrey is a hard worker?, no way of knowing what the truth is but my thinking on that if I give it thought is that he's the opposite of a hard worker. What does being a hard worker mean anyway? Just my perception from what I hear him say and reported. He seems to have a good worth ethic, puts in his time, tries new pitches, etc. Certainly no good way of knowing the truth. There are surely signs the other way too, but I doubt there are very many 'lazy' baseball players.

bmfc1 wrote: "Bloodlust"? What has he done to jusitfy a spot on the Mets roster in '12? Been better than D.J. Carrasco for one. (He's on the roster next year unless they cut him. You want him to start?) Pitched to a mediocre 4 ERA through the summer months, with almost every game eminently winable if the excellent Mets offense wasn't on the DL and they played better defense. More importantly for '12, he's under team control, has ability, and is a hard worker. Hopefully with plenty to work on (and maybe some better direction) he comes out next year closer to 2010 than 2011. He's gotta get the sinker back, but his peripherial stats are pretty much in line with his entire career. Which is reason to expect somewhat of a bounceback.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Right. There's no need to cut Pelfrey loose prematurely. If you can retain him at an acceptable price, you might as well keep him in the mix. If he does go to arbitration, and wins more money than the Mets want to spend, they're not obligated to pay it, are they? If I understand correctly, they can release him before spring training and not be on the hook at all, or perhaps for a small portion of the contract. Does that rule apply to non-free agent arbitration? I guess it's all the same. The panel, without opinion, awards the player a one-year, non-guaranteed contract at one salary or the other. If the player is cut within 16 days before the season begins, he is entitled only to 30 days� termination pay. If the player is cut during spring training but after the 16th day before the season begins, he is entitled only to 45 days� termination pay. Read more at Suite101: How Baseball Arbitration Works: MLB Rules Governing the Eligibility and Process of Arbitration | Suite101.com http://jameslincolnray.suite101.com/how-baseball-arbitration-works-a45599#ixzz1Z48uFcAU I'd be surprised if they don't agree to terms though.

Edgy DC wrote: After going 7-13 with a 4.74 ERA in 193 and 2/3 innings, with a cavernous home park, is there any reason to necessarily think he'd get seven million? I would have guessed he was among the league leaders in homers allowed, but he was merely tied for 17th with 21. Bronson Arroyo (who starts for the Reds Tuesday) gave up 44! bah, forum ate my reply. He agreed to a 3.925 contract last year. Given the year he's had it'd be hard to imagine he wouldn't agree to that again this year, unless someone out there gives big money to a similar type pitcher. I don't think even Boras is going to stick to his guns, claim the Mets made Pelfrey the Ace and he should be paid like Tim Lincecum.

Ceetar wrote: A lovely bunt by Tejada with Reyes on second gets him to third with one out. How nice. walk Wright and our friend Jason Bay grounds into a double play. Hamels escapes unscatched in his 2-out first. If this bunt is the reason they don't score..

A lovely bunt by Tejada with Reyes on second gets him to third with one out. How nice. walk Wright and our friend Jason Bay grounds into a double play. Hamels escapes unscatched in his 2-out first.

G-Fafif wrote: Batista it is. Dickey's a knuckleballer. What's three days rest to him? He can pick up his light saber with his left arm for a couple of weeks. figure why bother I guess.

It's looking less likely any of these 'races' that suddenly popped up will change what we thought 3 weeks ago. And yet none of the postseason matchups are set yet.