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Edgy DC wrote: Well, somebody suggested Rauch and Batista were possibilities. Let me read back... ... oh, scratch that. It was you. I'm not sure who the right person is to bring in with the bases loaded and the game tied in extra innings on the road. Walter Johnson, I guess, but he's dead. The only answer is: the best available dude at getting people out. Maybe that wasn't Beato, but I hardly see strong evidence that it wasn't Beato. Between Batista, Rauch and Beato which was all that left, I think you can make a strong case for Nieuwenhuis.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Do the Mets have even one dependable reliever? Is there any Mets reliever that, right now, wouldn't give you the willies in the last innings of a tight game? Parnell's close for me, recent struggles aside. Few teams have that guy though.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: There is no cure but to will it back, one guy at a time, as a unit, and accept that relief pitching is unpredictable. Meantime, scoring more runs and making fewer errors would build some room for error. 10 games without an error now, they're 3-7. but yeah, going 25 outs without a run last night wasn't good.

Edgy DC wrote: Well, I don't want knee-jerk management of the organization, certainly. And if that makes Alderson seem aloof, well, long live aloof. well clearly. I was just describing general fan reaction/expectation, not management. He does also have to address the bullpen in some way though too. It's probably the hardest thing for a GM to do. Is it another pitcher? a lefty? a fireballer? a 'closer'? a new catcher to call games? a new pitching coach with a new approach? Any of them could work, or not work, or simply appear to work or not work.

Edgy DC wrote: So you can't just say, "You failed, you're gone; you guys haven't failed yet, welcome aboard." You've got use judgment and shit, painful as it is to have to reinforce some of that judgment through bad results. But we've had mostly bad results through a bullpen merry-go-round for six years now. I don't know what to say, but I don't think cleaning house gets us forward. Part of Casey's gospel was that if you've got two good relievers, one of them will go bad on you the next year, so you'd better get a third. That's smart, but it's hard to apply in an era where teams put themselves in a position to need five-seven good relievers. That first part is common knee-jerk reaction to everything though. It's why people want Valdespin right now, because he's had some big hits and that's what's in front of us. Warthen?

Edgy DC wrote: The grounder before that... did we have a chance at a double play? OE: Oh, and Angel Hernandez. The Nats were aggressive, the Mets were not. We discussed last night about Murphy not tagging at second on the deep fly. That not turned DP was another one. To me it seemed like Ike saw that Beato was not necessarily in a position to get to first, that he was probably too far off the bag, and he had no idea where Murphy was. I think if he throws to second Murphy's there to retrieve the throw. I didn't see a good replay to see if Thole could've throw to first for the 3-2-4 DP.

I don't blame Terry for this one. I would've kept with Ramirez (who hasn't allowed an earned run since returning from the DL) instead of going to Edgin in the 8th. Edgin issuing the first walk though, was inexcusable. But that's why I hate switching relievers particularly with nobody on, you tend to find the ones that aren't doing good. We've been mentioning pitch selection lately, Edgin should've been firing strikes there right? He threw all fastballs, which is I guess what he has.. actually, why was Edgin brought in for the Righty and the Switch hitter? He got the lefty Harper out..maybe that is a spot you can question Terry at.. Parnell threw almost entirely curveballs near the end. He would've gotten the save if the Nats hadn't hit and run. The aggressiveness by the Nats ended up being the difference (SB by DeRosa is what scored in Edgin's inning too). Did Parnell not trust his fastball last night? He got Zimmerman out on three fastballs. He started off Morse out with curves to 1-2, then a fastball for a ball and then a hit off the fastball. Two fastballs to LaRoche and the soft grounder that ended up a hit. From there it seems like he lost confidence in the fastball. Does this lead back to pitch selection? Gets Moore on three curveballs, fail to tie the game with runner on third with less than two outs. Gets Espinosa to 2-2 on curveballs, throws one fastball and it's smacked. bad location? gets Flores on three curves.

Edgy DC wrote: Pelf's failure was an unwillingness to come inside. He set the guy up with curves, and then paints the black away with a 99-MPH heater. Sweet pitch, but you had the batter protecting away. Up and in, baby. Freudian? Parnell. pitch selection again. Who chose that pitch? Who taught him/them to set up batters? Thole? Parnell? Warthen? This pitch selection stuff is way above my head..but I always seem to think they start batters off good and don't execute/pick the right/good/appropriate finisher. Seems like a lot of damage has been done against the Mets with 2 strikes.

They win that one at home. Must be nice to have a 6 (well, 4 over Braves) game cushion where you can blow leads occasionally and not panic.

i still can't get past the hit and run bad luck. or good call by DAvey, whichever way you want to look at it.

nope.

Let's see if we can get the 2 out save here.

If I'm reading it correctly, the stupid Girardi/Collins DD commercial was filmed preseason as the Freedom tower is much smaller than it is now/recently.

keep him off the bases, so no baserunning hijinks can kill us for the third time.

Frayed Knot wrote: Murph should be on 3rd there. with 2 outs probably better not to risk it.

Swan Swan H wrote: Who's left on the bench? I count Nooey and Ashie's sister. Duda, who may not be avail, and Kirk.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Had 'em on that DP grounder. #DamnDavey again, damn margin of error. game of inches, blah blah blah. wish Ike had blasted one back to back with Jordany..

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Pinch hit Dadududa for Hairston in the ninth? Assuming it's Clippard pitching and that Duda is fully healthy? - Yes. Gary just said he had a cortizone shot yestserday, so probably not. those things usually take a couple of days.

Edgy DC wrote: Pinch hit Dadududa for Hairston in the ninth? Probably. or Bay if someone's on?

Frayed Knot wrote: Umps haven't exactly been doing us many favors lately either. And Wright's fly out and Moore's HR were roughly the same distance. game of inches. The Mets are just playing with no margin for error lately.

ugh a lot.

Edgy DC wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Not sure why Murphy is coming up and not Turner here. Well, can't argue with the results. now Turner. let's see..

ooo ooo, another reason for Bay in front of Hairston is when Bay inevitably sucks, at least he can only make one out?

seawolf17 wrote: At Nats Park. Nice place, actually. Will look for bmfc later. was planning on going down the next series, but probably not anymore. still haven't seen it.

Let's do this. I'd put my money on Teddy winning the race over the Nats winning tonight.