Ceetar

Frayed Knot wrote: The problem with the immediate replacement (beyond the time squeeze of getting someone across the country for a day game) is that it requires an immediate DL or some separate move. If it just turns out to be a couple day thing -- like say with Cespedes and his hip -- then going a day or three minus a guy is often better than having a regular miss the minimum 15 even though he'll likely be healthy for maybe 10-12 of them. If all DL trips were apparent immediately such calls would be easy but it doesn't always work that way. I think they'll probably know on Lagares either today or tomorrow and make a call then. It's almost like part of having a 25 man roster is the flexibility to do things like this. Terry should still pinch-hit his backup catcher over deGrom or Syndergaard though.

Lefty Specialist wrote: I think you have to go with Wilmer for now; it's his opportunity to prove once and for all he belongs. If he doesn't cut it, all the tears in the world won't save him. He's gotten more chances than most and hasn't proved that, so you certainly gotta be looking for the solution even if Flores can be not-terrible there.

Edgy MD wrote: Of course, that accepts at face value that all of his latter-day production was juice-generated, which is easy enough to theorize, but harder to establish. placebo effect is probably rule too.

worth it.

Walters off the 40, Soup to Vegas, which is roughly the last place you'd want to eat soup.

Daren Willman @darenw Noah Syndergaard has thrown 2 sliders at 93.7 MPH.... 388 pitchers this year have a slower average fastball than that.

Curtis Granderson � RF Asdrubal Cabrera � SS Michael Conforto � LF Yoenis Cespedes � CF Neil Walker � 2B James Loney � 1B Wilmer Flores � 3B Kevin Plawecki � C Steven Matz � LHP

soupcan wrote: Do you think not calling Herrera up may have something to do with management wanting to keep him from arbitration/free agency as long as possible? Basically not giving him the MLB time he needs to get to those milestones? seems unlikely he's good enough for that to matter.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Rubes is so full of shit lately I don't know whether he's leaving the beat or just exaggerating. I don't follow him so I only see second/third hand, but hasn't he been tweeting about "BIG NEWS" for about a month and then delaying it?

I was glad the Mets hadn't hit Utley. That was good. don't hit human beings with 90mph baseballs and don't give your enemies free bases. I'd only be slightly peeved if they'd ejected Syndergaard had he hit him. But not only did he not hit him, it was like the 6th AB since last year that Syndergaard had faced Utley. Nevermind the other dozen AB against Mets pitchers. There was no reason to assume intent there. And you can't auto-eject pitchers like that. Utley is the ACTIVE LEADER in HBP. So what, Utley can basically break everyones' legs and show-boat all he likes, and it's just going to get his OBP up and other teams pitchers ejected for no reason?

it's one of those things that's making the rounds is various forms around the majors, like the trend of dumping whatever leftover seeds/gum are in the bucket in the dugout. A-Rod was a big collector: http://www.pinstripealley.com/2013/8/13/4616636/alex-rodriguez-walk-off-home-runs-hitter-helmet-chase-gifs

soupcan wrote: I dunno about Familia not having his best stuff If that swinging bunt goes foul maybe none of those runs score. Bad luck more than bad stuff methinks. There was also a bloop just out of reach and a grounder that just found a hole.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah, Rohan seemed to lurk in the shadows a bit. I guess skateboarding to and from Williamsburg every day got to be too much for him. yeah, I have positive notions about Rohan's work, but I don't recall it being plentiful.

Actually Wright's comments DO defend Harvey. He's saying that Harvey IS an accountable guy, and should've talked to the media so that they don't think he's not accountable. He then went on to say "I think sometimes it's time to give somebody a little bit of space before you start talking about these things" That's spin for "Fuck off, he was in a bad mood and needed some time to brood a bit"

I would've listened to some of this for background noise, particularly the end, but if I own a radio it's not easily accessible. alas. Looks like people were having fun with it on Twitter, though live-tweeting it seemed a bit much.

Edgy MD wrote: And while the Mets certainly have a media staff that can train (or at least guide) him, Harvey has bullied his way through them too, seemingly caught up in the notion that until he gets the big payday, everybody associated with the organization is the enemy. you don't _have_ to see that narrative. I think Wright likes Harvey just fine. I don't think Harvey is particularly bothered by the media being pissed with him, but occasionally Wright plays the Captain card and reminds him that his choices might be affecting the rest of the team. And I bet there's a difference between talking about Harvey's bad outing versus Harvey's innings limit. No one got asked questions the other day that they weren't going to be asked anyway. Especially Plawecki. But having the media maraud into the clubhouse asking Michael Conforto what he thinks about the organization and Harvey's plan for pitching the rest of the season is a little more of a burden. Though, not that much bigger, and in a lot of cases the media is going to go and ask those guys anyway, trying to dig up dirt or just not happy with Harvey's cultivated answers. It's also worth noting that it's a little contradictory to say Harvey's not a great under the spotlights interview and also criticize him for not speaking in the heat of the moment.

d'Kong76 wrote: soupcan wrote: This has gotten completely out of hand. Sure has, but it's an off day. And, it's out of hand because he is a lightning rod. He created it with awesome pitching and off-field stories and you can't just 'dis' (I hate that term, but used it anyway) the NY media and not expect to get baked for it when your chips are down. If this was Verrett, we wouldn't be having this discussion. if it was deGrom we wouldn't be having this conversation, but again, why does it matter? He doesn't deserve more or less praise/grief just because the way he choices to lead is life is a juicier story for the media. Those things are unrelated. And let's not forget it was the media that dubbed Harvey the Dark Knight to begin with. The media is tapping him on the shoulder and going "Made you look!" There was some talk about closing the clubhouse to the media permanently not to long ago, and only making some players available in a defined space. I'm all for that, and while the starting pitcher would probably be required to speak after his starts, maybe a little bit bigger buffer would help.

d'Kong76 wrote: Ceetar wrote: The thing is, you know the media just wants him to go down to Vegas so he can come back so they can have some Dark Knight Rises references for later in the season. So transparent. I disagree. You think they sit around in a conference room hoping that Player A does this or Player B does that so in August they can use a head- line that they've already conjured up? Dude, that's just mad! They report (or distort) the news on an hourly basis nowadays. They don't have a season-long plan for Harvey or even a team for that matter. There's a lot of downtime in the press box during games/approaching games. They already pre-write game stories in the 5th inning based on a narrative they see developing, they certainly see potential developing storylines down the road.

The thing is, you know the media just wants him to go down to Vegas so he can come back so they can have some Dark Knight Rises references for later in the season. So transparent.

G-Fafif wrote: Almost no young Mets catcher has ever hit out of the box. Grote, Stearns, Hundley all come to mind as sucking batting early in their careers. Even d'Arnaud looked a little clueless. I wouldn't give up on the guy based on what amounts to a few extended cameos. That's true, and catching is hard, but we're rapidly coming up on a fairly large sample. The Mets clearly thought he could hit too though, keeping him around as the backup instead of giving him reps in Vegas. seems like perhaps that was the wrong plan.

TransMonk wrote: WHAT? So, he's going to make his next start? Crazy. At least that one will be an ESPN holiday gay dame against the Chi Sox. It won't just be the local reporters getting to see him, it'll give the national outlets a front-row seat for the suck. White Sox also aren't really a great hitting team, or a good one. That should help. Start after that is in giant Marlins park against the Marlins, so that should help too. I don't care that he didn't stick around to say the exact same thing he said after the last game. Harvey's douchiness or whatever you want to call it doesn't bother me, and that's irrelevant to his success on the field. I don't expect people to change based on the results of the game and I don't agree that players that are winning should 'get away with it'.

Centerfield wrote: If you're getting Yankees, can we have Beltran back? I bet he could learn to play 1st. he did play 5 innings there back in 2014, so we're set.

Edgy MD wrote: Even if the Phils pick up 75%, Howard remains untouchable? Like a slider when he's at the plate.

A reason not to experiment at first might be for Wright's sake. He's always done best with an experienced guy there. I feel like if you go back and look at his defense when Murphy was playing there compared to say Delgado or Davis or even Duda, it's stark. With him maybe being a little stiff at times and messing around with this side-arm stuff, there's probably more value in a better glove guy there. Then again, that might be true regardless of David Wright, I'm not sure we properly quantify first base defense.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Do keep in mind that Conforto is playing above-average defense in left field, and that he has never-- not in the minors, not in high school, not in little league-- wielded a first-baseman's glove in anger. I'm not sure I'd call what he's doing above-average.