I don't believe in the "third time through" philosophy, at least not as a blanket policy. As long as the starting pitcher is pitching well and is not unduly fatigued, then I would prefer to let him keep pitching until he is is showing signs of faltering or fatigue. Why keep turning to your 4th or 5th best reliever in the 5th/6th inning in hopes that they will be the first in a succession of effective pitchers that day. Advocates of the third time through philosophy must believe that relievers don't get tired and fatigued from constant usage. They also must believe that the 4th/5th/6th best reliever in the bullpen is better than their starter after 75-85 pitches. Often times, the Mets are turning to a rotating group of minor league call ups to fill the 5th & 6th inning. I am old school. The third time through (or even the 4th time through) the line up didn't seem to be a concern for Seaver, Gibson, Maddux, Carlton, Marichal, Jenkins, Feller, R. Johnson, Ryan, Blyleven, Palmer, Clemens, Glavine et al. Even less accomplished (not HOF) pitchers like Koosman, Sutcliffe, Tiant, Morris, McNally, Drabek, Ojeda, Colon and John didn't have major issues facing batters more than twice in a game. It's not so much that pitchers are no longer capable of facing hitters a third time, it's that the game has changed and they are seldom asked to do so. With increased emphasis on pitch counts, protecting pitchers arms, advanced analytics, growing emphasis on velocity (radar guns) and larger/deeper bullpens have made complete game (or just completing 7 innings) a rapidly diminishing occurrence over the past 20-25 years. The emphasis is for pitchers to go all out for 5 or 6 innings, then get them out regardless of how well they are pitching. For relievers, it's get one inning, then they generally go to another reliever. It's not like the hitters of today are smarter or better than the hitters of old, it is just the philosophy of how the game is played that has changed.* *Of course, I'm just an old baseball curmudgeon, so I could be totally wrong.