I think you can still get decent value for those guys. Problem is, everyone knows about Glavine's vesting option, which is going to come a lot more quickly than anyone would like, so they'd have to throw some money in. Looper is a no-brainer in my mind; someone will give us a good short-term player or two. Cameron is the one I'd least like to see go, because he has been so good, but if you want value, he's got it. I like his point on Ishii and Mientkiewicz (especially the "frisk Mientkiewicz" part - funny), and they are both somewhat easily replaced.Piazza can go. Thanks for the memories, Mike; but it's time to move on.