"When he came off after the sixth, he could have probably started the seventh inning, because he was feeling OK," Collins said. "But I was so excited that he pitched so well after he's been so down about not winning a game. I said, 'I'm not going to let this kid lose this game. I'm not going to do that.' He needs to move forward with a positive attitude that he pitched very, very well. Even though he did pitch well, had something happened the next inning, he goes home feeling bad about it. And I didn't want that to happen." So it's not about winning, it's not losing. And if it's about getting a win for the guy, isn't a useful component to getting that win using a pitcher who is pitching well as long as he is able to go? If you see a long-term tangilble benefit to uplifting players by not putting them in a position to lose, please consider that it's a zero-sum game. So they take Hef out, and they lose, does he feel that much better, knowing the team lost but it's not on his record, and all his teammates know he wasn't permitted to help them any further for the protection to his delicate psyche. And now Lyon, or whoever gets the loss on his record is in need of psychological boost of his own. I'd be mad at Terry, but this is too much the mainstream perspective for me to hang it on him alone. I imagine four out of five managers would agree with him.