batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: On the other hand, nobody this side of Seaver and Gooden have given the Mets a decade as a front-of-the-rotation starter, so... adjust expectations accordingly. That's exactly what we're doing. At least me and Vic, anyways. I mean, my expectations for Zack Wheeler aren't the same as for Colin McHugh. Well, I dunno, Vic's seemingly explicitly saying anything short of front-of-the-rotation productivity for a decade is a disappointment. I'll take it a little at a time and go from there. Quality pitching is so ephemeral. I don't build expectations about one single guy, but rather the process. You've got to develop piles of quality, see what shakes out, and keep the process renewable.